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The person on the left is carrying bags, the one in orange is a delivery driver and a couple of people are wearing backpacks. Aside from car brained, Damaris is also blind.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I think that's slightly critical of Damaris.

They are asking a question regarding something they do not understand.

It is a true statement that roads are used to transport goods and services.

They then simply ask who in the video is carrying goods and products into stores/homes, and how workers move goods from ports to the stores.

They don't know how a system like this works when it comes to, for example, stocking a grocery store, because they have not worked or lived in a place with infrastructure like this.

It's just ad hominem and poor practice to call someone blind when they aren't familiar with something, particularly when they seem interested in how it works, and works contrary to convincing people of the cause.

If someone has worked with punch cards to program a computer all their life, and someone showed them software written the python programming language and they said:

"But the punch card is so that the computer can read in bytes to know what to do, in this text I don't see any bytes, there's nothing telling the computer if this is little endian or big endian, it all looks like a book. How does the text tell the computer what to do?"

Then my response would NOT be "Well the list comprehension here is yielding a range of numbers which are sent to the print function, and this class is acting as a signal handler. Aside from punch card brained, you're also blind".

My response would be a very happy opportunity to explain to them the benefits of a modern programming language versus punch cards, and how it works in comparison.

Unless this is a person known to be explicitly anti-bike and pro-car, it is bad to be this critical of them and works in no one's favor.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

to be fair riding bikes around is pretty recreational too, i wish we had the infrastructure to ride pedal bikes around more safely over here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Apart from cargo bikes, in London City ULEZ, buses, cabs, and utility trucks are allowed. It's amazing how little traffic they generate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Even Belfast only allows access to the city centre for vehicles doing deliveries. It's not uncommon to see one, but I mean a single one generally in the centre of a capital city

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Also many pedestrianized streets allow for deliveries with larger vehicles! These just have to drive more carefully and slower for the last couple hundred meters. Usually just a city block or two.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Ok so before your anti car brain downvotes this... Read me out.

It's a legitimate question for cities that do remove most car access, some essential items (fridges for example) do break and they do need to be replaced. A Bike won't do to transport these types of things (mattress is another example) what's the solution to this logistics issue?

I'm all for car fucking don't get me wrong but the image does raise an reasonable question, and i feel it deserves reasonable answers not just 'fuck you you stupid car brained fuck head' which is the majority of these comments.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I don't think car access should ever be completely removed. The way it's done in most pedestrian/bike areas around here is that trucks (delivery and trash pick up) are all done within a small window of time. Outside of that, no cars are allowed besides the one or two security vehicles that move at walking speed if they even move at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

The Netherlands does have access for those things. Its the petrolheads who make up that they dont. Otherwise we'd see their cities failing. And there are cargo bikes for many things. My Cousin's partner rides one thats like a mini boxvan, half electric with a solar panel on the top.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

See, the way you're phrasing it is a legitimate question. I notice you didn't give a smug description of what a road is for and you didn't continue to point out that bicycles don't fit all use cases.

To answer the question, there's a few ways. Some furniture stores rent out cargo bicycles (like IKEA) and inner cities do allow traffic specifically for delivery of goods in a lot of places.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

If the above is about the Netherlands then cars are rarely every completely banned. Mostly restricted and trucks for supplying businesses are allowed (although they often have to be low emission if it's downtown).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Alright, I don't generally agree with you guys in this subreddit since cars man freedom from landlords to me. This person in the pic though? Absolute lunacy! I'm just dying to see the look on their face when someone sets them straight!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

since cars man freedom from landlords to me

what a fucked up society we live in...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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