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I know most people that were on reddit at the time are fully aware of this and won't be surprised but don't dismiss the findings out of hand. It's important that studies are being conducted and the fact that the finding match our lived experience is still noteworthy.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

To all the people rushing to sarcastically comment how surprised they are: Yes, we all saw it happen. But..

It's important that studies are being conducted and the fact that the finding match our lived experience is still noteworthy.

This is why OP posted it. Science isn't feelings, you need data.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Science is feelings

Typo? 🤣

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Remember when they lifted the no racism rule? I do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yes. And I really should have left Reddit then and never looked back.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Literally everyone on Reddit could see this except spez, who is a greedy little pigboy

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh he could see it too and didn't care because he's a self proclaimed libertarian.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What's a right wing libertarian other than a fascist so selfish they aren't concerned or swayed by ideas of nationalism or "heritage". But they'll happily enable and march with the ones who are. When their self interest aligns. They just want to be the ones on top.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They’re mostly just conservatives who like drugs.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

There are only three kinds of libertarians:

  1. Likes drugs and naive about economics.
  2. Hates minorities and understands economics but naive as fuck about NAP.
  3. Pedophile.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Extremists are engagement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I really wonder if the nouveau rich tech startup boys look around and realize that their greed is directly responsible for the 2016 election and by extension, the state of US domestic politics today, and feel even a tiny bit of guilt over it.

Probably not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I don't think that's how they're wired. If anything, they'd be excited to learn they're a couple of million dollars of AI astroturfing from being able to choose the president.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

But that's not true I've heard it straight from the tech-bros mouth. They build these technologies to help us, the little people. To spread peace and love and build deeper connections with the people that we love. I'm sure that they feel pain and guilt that they have to deposit those large checks into their bank accounts. /s

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

To add on to the people pointing out that science is data:

Yes, it is incredibly obvious that the turmp fanclub subreddit would radicalize people to become white nationalists.

What is not obvious is that this is happening everywhere. And, if you get a hold of one of the "leaked" white supremacist recruiting guides from the 80s and 90s, that is by design.

South Park Libertarians and all but it really is telling how many people, to this day, insist that the f-slur for gay people is really "Oh, we took that back. it means obnoxious motorcycle drivers". Let alone statements like "har har, you are so butthurt" that (regardless of what urban dictionary says) are on the same level as "ha ha, you are gay"

We see it every day. And it makes communities hostile. And if you call it out, you get driven out. Which means there are fewer people around to say "... what the fuck? How can we think this is acceptable?". And then someone whose entire vocabulary is "lolzors go woke go broke pepe pepe" gets rightfully made fun of elsewhere and now they are a victim and all those "for the lolz" become their identity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes, it is incredibly obvious that the turmp fanclub subreddit would radicalize people to become white nationalists.

They're polarizing and definitely hateful.

But as the volume got cranked higher and higher, I think it encouraged more silent disgust than popular approval.

You just couldn't see it under all the pro-Trump spam.

And then someone whose entire vocabulary is “lolzors go woke go broke pepe pepe” gets rightfully made fun of elsewhere and now they are a victim and all those “for the lolz” become their identity.

The online Shoot And Cry strategy. Always be the victim.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

While it certainly is a bit of a captain obvious moment that exposure to far-right echo chambers helped radicalise vulnerable people into the far-right, but I can see the merit in having empirical evidence supporting what we see (as OP said) - it is a lot easier to dismiss an andecdote than statistical evidence

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Weak, all of them

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't know what they mean. I hung about in there for three years and I never picked up any white nationalist vocabulary.

This article sounds like (((globalist))) propaganda to me!

Edit: Incidentally, I was perma-banned from reddit for making a similar joke there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It's all about living in a silo. Surround yourself with one side, and there's no other direction to go but further down your side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (10 children)

I would've been curious to see what kinds of words got counted as "far-right vocabulary" but it appears that research has recently gone back to being effectively concealed behind paywalls for those of us not in academia.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

This won't make Spez any more uncomfortable when he wants to sleep at night. According to him, that subreddit was "valuable discussion".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If you ever want to observe or engage (be ready for the pile-up) with these same folks, r/ShitPoliticsSays contains the exact same user-base of extremists. These are dyed-in-the-wool folks because they use this as a launching-point for brigading other subs comment threads. Lots of Canadian righties there, too. The only credit I'll give is unlike r/conservative that they never censored so you could pretty much discuss and test argumentative points to your heart's content.

Just read the thread covering this very article about T_D lol

Of course I still think a sizable chunk of these folks operate in discord channels and astroturfed Sanders subs (especially the 2020 election), ChapoTrapHouse, etc.

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