Idk if it's actually a lemmy.ml thing or what, but coming from lemmy.world, every time I see a post from .ml, like half of the comments have been deleted by moderator(s). In general, .ml seems to have really heavy handed censorship and it gives me a really bad perception of .ml overall.
this post was submitted on 19 May 2024
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I agree there. Then you look at the mod log and it’s stuff like “Hamas is bad” or “Stalin wasn’t so great” Or “China is pretty capitalist”
Then you look through the mod log and something like 50% or more of removed comments are all from .ml
Definitely wouldn’t make it my home instance
This is the post that made me think about it
Compare the deleted comments to the mod log and it’s just like… wuht?
And every single post in the thread was deleted by the same guy, who just drops the same post with a ton of links to questionable sources to every comment before deleting them.
https://lemmy.ml/post/15817802
Yeah my post there got removed and in my inbox it was cited as 'Spam,' even though I was commenting on how that post had (as I said previously) most of the comments removed by moderator(s).
Tbh .ml is feeling less and less hospitable every time I interact with the instance, which sucks cause when reddit fell, .ml was my go-to. I don't even want to use my .ml account anymore on principle.
New Edit: they removed my comment calling them out and I didn't even get a message saying why (as if I don't already know). I've also updated the link to go to the main thread, since my comments there get deleted by whatever fascist mod is doing it.
Yeah it’s unfortunate
Now they've removed my comment that was calling them out, and I didn't even get a message on why (like I don't anyway know the answer is 'mod abuse').
And now I've been shadowbanned. I can't vote on topics there anymore. I know which user it is too, since there's only 2 mods and one hasn't done anything in 3yrs. Hint: it's OP of the post. Is there a way to report unfavorably run communities to the .ml server owners?
I mean, it’s davel. I can see it in the mod logs.
It's perfectly valid - moderators are both moderators and users.
When someone posts a questionable comment, it's perfectly fine to press them on it, and see if there was a misunderstanding. If a short conversation reveals, no, actually they were just a dick, yeah, delete that whole thread. Nuke them into orbit
I agree with that perspective but don’t believe that’s what’s happening. From what I’ve seen it is very heavily politically motivated.
Being a reactionary is a type of being a dick and their posts should be removed
That’s what’s interesting, “reactionary” has started to lose its meaning and more turned into “reacting with an opinion I disagree with”
But that’s where the conflict of interest comes in. Any discussion is inherently imbalanced when half of it is blanket removed- but it’s okay as long as it’s the other
If you want free speech absolutism, feel free to find instances that cater to that. Nobody is asking you to participate on here. Your opinions are simply not welcome because people find them trite and tiring.
I was also banned and had all my comments removed after having a long debate with a mod on the world news sub. When I did not accept their viewpoint, they eventually nuked everything and just banned me.
And the debate was all about whether government propaganda news sources were good sources of media. I was asserting that they weren’t and that you should be able to use whatever tools exist to assess them for bias.
But they really don’t like it when you undermine their sources of information.
It’s inevitably an alienating shit show whenever I have to interact with users from .ml, since they go out and pollute other instances.
In fact, if you look at the history of many of the users in this thread who are upvoted for insulting you, you can see them polluting and insulting their way all over the place.
You're making an accusation without providing any evidence of the supposed abuses or unfairness. Why do you feel the need to spread FUD?
Depends on the comment. You can both address the issues of a comment and remove it if it breaks the rules.
My own experience was having a full, hours long debate with a mod, who after I didn’t just accept their world view simply deleted all my comments and banned me. They left their own comments and arguments of course.
In the kiddo’s it just says “rule 2” as explanation for my ban and the deleted comments, but “rule 2” was about NSFW posts. Our conversation was about whether mediabiasfactcheck can be used as a tool to assess news sources. I kept it respectful. Nothing at all NSFW about it.
I'd have to see what actually happened, I can't just take your word for it at face-value.
It would be in the mod log at worldnews, about four weeks ago. Since I couldn’t participate there I blocked the sub (before understood how lemmy worked), so I unfortunately cannot screenshot the exact comments. But it shouldn’t take a lot of effort if you’re actually interested.
I like being on an instance where trolls get banned. It was a fun hobby to check in during reddit exodus, see some garbage comments and guess how long it'd take for it to be banned. The internet is full of freeze-peach reactionary havens. Lemmy.ml is luckily not one of them
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Would you like me to take an audio recording for you, or?
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👌 thanks for your contribution to the discussion
What discussion lol. You're complaining about moderators moderating.
I’m questioning the optics and impact of moderators/admins participating in discussions while removing opinions counter to theirs, sometimes under false pretenses. If you want free and open discussion, that’s not how you want an instance to operate, it’s just another form of authoritarianism and censorship in its own right.
You still haven't shown any examples of these removed comments not whether or not they were breaking instance rules.
This post specifically is what made me think about it
But that same admin has a history of posting highly questionable information and deleting anyone who disagrees.
I believe that Davel acted correctly and with professionalism in this example. He removed racist, misinformational, and reactionary content while countering with sources to debunk those views. This is not only appropriate for a moderator but going above and beyond.
Calling comparing to Xi Jinping to Pooh bear racist is hilariously victim complexy. It has nothing to do with his skin and everything to do with his goofy lookin face.
“Misinformation”
You mean he’s pretending Hong Kong was super into being subjugated by China on live tv
Or pretending tiananmen square didn’t happen
Like, cmon. It’s basically just CCP propaganda, and even that’s ok if you’re not going through and removing comments that disagree with it
I didn't report shit get fucked
You offering or..?