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[–] [email protected] 87 points 3 months ago (9 children)

And it will be provided for free to anyone who needs it, right? Right?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Hey, don't forget Yemen, South Africa, Nigeria, Egypt, Pakistan, Iran, and Sudan!

A fine group to belong to, we can all agree.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Banned for national security

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

Free + $46,000 in Ch-China tariffs.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

In China, possibly. In the US, not before there is a revolution. In France, not after years in Parliament and seeing 3 to 5 physicians

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (7 children)

In Cuba, yes. Capitalist country? Maybe no

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Certainly not in the US of A... but the rest of the world may have a chance if this actually pans out

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 months ago (1 children)

'Further studies are needed for validation.' Understatement of the year

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I'm hopeful but wary. Medical science keeps being the one thing left in this world that consistently makes me happy to be alive in modern times. This would be a great breakthrough.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Type 2, since the article doesn't say.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah but the person "cured" had type 2.

There might be applications for type 1, but that's speculation.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Important to know. Reading on how it works on the article, I wonder if it could be used for type 1, likely in combination with some kind of drug therapy to prevent the body from just killing the new islet cells.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

New trade restrictions coming soon on Chinese pharmaceuticals.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

True. How could it be a free market if corporations are not allowed to form a cartel and agree on a price for a product that is literally vital for many people?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Curing diabetes is not in the shareholders' best interests.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I mean it is... They could literally have a cure that they can sell to millions of people around the world, as well as millions more who will contract diabetes in the future.

I don't understand this conspiracy and companies don't want cures. I can understand scepticism around pharmaceutical companies for all the awful shit they've done, but it doesn't mean that scientists and researchers will never be able to produce cures.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't exactly subscribe to the conspiracy but I can understand it as it's related to "planned obsolescence." Companies don't want to sell you a quality product that will last "forever" they want to sell you something that's just good enough to work for a bit, but will absolutely break or be replaced very soon so you become a repeat customer as opposed to a one time customer.

The same logic applies here with the medication, why would they sell something once even if there were new future customers, if they could instead have everyone on a "subscription" of sorts?

The conspiracy exists because we see it play out in every other facet of our society/economy. Everything is becoming a subscription, you don't own anything, every product a corporation makes is almost complete garbage, etc... I'm not sure I believe it 100% but I wouldn't in the slightest bit be surprised to find out that actually was the case.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Does this logic apply in China?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Remember, it was the Chinese labs that also reproduced the room temperature super conductor experiment a few years ago and also found their own material…and then it all turns out to be complete bullshit.

One patient doesn’t mean anything. It’s great if it’s real (having worked directly with China for engineering, I have zero faith this is even a real thing) but there is a lot of reason to doubt at this point.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

Destroy corporate healthcare by curing diabetes.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

presses X to Doubt

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (18 children)

If this were true, I wouldn’t be finding out about it on Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is a news aggregator. Why wouldn't you find out about an early-stage clinical trial on Lemmy?

Any such treatment, even if it works, would take decades to pass through the various approval stages before being released to the public.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

The headline isn’t ’early stage clinical trial starts the multi-decade process of developing a cure for diabetes’… the headline reads ‘diabetes has been cured’

Alls I’m saying is that if the headline as written were true, we would be hearing it from all news sources at once, not just some single post on a somewhat obscure news aggregator.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair, not much of a demand for such a permanent cure in leading profit driven health care systems where diabetes medicine is gold. How about MSN? https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/world-s-first-diabetes-cure-with-cell-therapy-achieved-in-china/ar-BB1n7cNA

Though one does well to be skeptical yet.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It’s sad to see USA so shackled by pure capitalism that it starts to lose its scientific edge left and right while drooling libs jerk off to the big pharma freedom of unrestrained gains. Still believing they have a chance for a piece from the cake if only they squeeze their cheeks a little harder.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I am super confused by your take here. Liberals who, and let's be clear, regularly push for better if not universal health care (and are the only major party to do so) jerk off big Pharma to you? How exactly do you get to that conclusion?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

Liberals means different things around the world. Here it means free markets circlejerkers, Adam smith cultists, invisible hand of the market preachers while at the same time anti lgbt for some reason. Pro freedom but anti freedom. Full of paradoxes. Neonazi too and even conservative despite based around free market peddling.

After all we live in a post truth word where even people who agree with each other cannot communicate anymore due to shifting meaning of the words thanks to the politicians and media.

How can we even converse if the words itself are stolen, changed and used for war? Do we need to use mathematics instead of language if the latter is disfigured beyond recognition? Changed into a tool of some demagogue?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Liberal = laissez faire

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Oh crap! If this is true then avoid spending a ton of money in insulin supplies each year could give an actual reason to politicians for reducing the healthcare state budget, which they normally do at every occasion just without a proper explanation... I don't know if my mind is ready for rationality in politics /s

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Why is everyone online so incredulous of this breakthrough? Is it just Sinophobia or are there reasons to doubt Chinese medical findings?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There’s reason to doubt all sensationalist medical headlines

But this is 1 patient, no long term effects studied (just doesn’t need insulin injections), and hasn’t been validated

Nothing to do with China

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