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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Is that why trans-Atlantic flights are so much more expensive these days?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

On the other hand, cis-Atlantic flights are cheaper than ever before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, wouldn't those just be intra-continental flights?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You can change continent without crossing the Atlantic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Flying New York to London via Russia-adjacent Artic?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The price of ink is through the roof.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

My wallet is not that deep!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Nah, that's just airliners abusing their monopolies to squees every last dime out of your pocket, the poor shareholders need to survive too, you know.

Its not just trans Atlantic either, it's everywhere. I just booked Mexico Canada and I got the luxury premium of being allowed to take one free carry-on

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Climate change is fucking a lot up.

Hotter air is less dense, requiring more lift generated from the engines.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be clear, 2°C is not going to significantly affect lift. Planes won't to falling put of the sky on sunny days. Rather, airports and weight limits were designed around historic temperature maximums, and much higher maximum temperatures are showing up much more commonly. Adjusting these limits isn't hard, but airlines are going to cry every step of the way and pass the cost ditectly to passengers.

Increased turbulence and higher winds are also a concern, increasing maintenance costs and travel times, as well as extreme weather shutting down airports more often.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

pass the cost ditectly to passengers.

That's the rub, no?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know this is meant to sound like the expansion is fast, but it is in fact really, REALLY slow.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well yeah it's slow. No one would hire the Atlantic with only 100 wps typing skill.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hold on, over how many lines? How was this estimate made? I demand to know what latitude gets the first line change for a given text. Also how much text you'd need and whether we have a single source that would fit.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We can work this out in reverse.

The Atlantic widens about 1cm per year. Words contain about 6 characters on average. At 12 points, or 4mm tall, that comes to about 2x6=12mm for an average word, make it 15mm for ease and spaces,

If the ocean gains 15x100=1500mm (150cm) of word-width per second, thats 150x60x60x24x365 ~ 4.7 billion centimeters of word-space per year.

Given that it only moves about 1cm, that's a quick and dirty 4.7 billion lines of text.

At 5mm tall (4mm of text, 1mm whitespace between lines), that comes to 23 million meters. Since the earth is about 40.000km or 40 million meters in circumference, and adding in rounding numbers and suffering tectonic drift numbers, 4.7 billion lines seems about the right order of magnitude.

Edit: nope, it works out!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Companion trivia: Can the whole of text of the internet cover the entire Atlantic in 12 point type, and if not yet, when based on how fast it grows?

Secondary question: What font would be best, besides Papyrus?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Depends on the projection.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Tectonic plates are about as fast as the growth of finger and toe nails

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I feel like that would be much much faster than 100 words per minute... But scale is hard

Taken from​ below, the Atlantic Ocean expands 1 cm per year, this is much slower than my finger nails grow

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

100 words per minute

Post says words per second.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

As my stat mech professor said, "what's a few orders of magnitude between friends?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It's also not the exact speed but the order of magnitude. Both plates and nails vary in speed individually but the order of magnitude is the same

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If I started to let my fingernails grow around the time of Pangea, I'd have some kickass fingernails that would be a bitch while programming.

I'd also have a nail fungus from the planet hell.

Edit: auto correct is a bitch

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I do not like the sound of pickass finger nails. But it could explain the fungus.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

But, would we expect the words to evenly increase, or would we see nothing for a month and then 4 billion additional words pop in all at once?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Here's the sauce: xkcd/2803

And here is another lemmy post about this commic: https://sh.itjust.works/post/1694738 (on [email protected])

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And how much by sea level rise?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Grant proposal bit idea