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[–] [email protected] 195 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (61 children)

People. We, the French, pulled a left-wing coalition out of our asses in less than a week and managed to "win" an election. You have months. Hope is permitted.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So we need a French immigrant to help fix the government?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

It's very true. We've been brainwashed into a year long campaign mostly because it generates a lot of money for various parties but prior elections have proven it's mostly what happens in the last month that makes a difference.

Y'all are lucky you can make coalitions, though. This is more akin to your election if you only had centrists and far right running. Two party system and all that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Thanks for your support! And very happy to see your success in France.

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[–] [email protected] 151 points 1 month ago (24 children)

I'll say just one thing:

Every single one of you assholes who wouldn't shut up about him stepping down since the dude missed the toilet bowl fifty years ago after a particularly wild night out better sure as fuck step up now that Old Joe has stepped down.

A sitting god damned President of the United States has stepped aside less than half a year before reelection. Make no mistake: The man swallowed his pride and ego HARD to make this decision. Let's honor that by creating a wall of votes so god. damned. thick. Riley Reid would gasp.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Am one of those "assholes". Kamala was far from my favorite candidate in 2020, but I just donated a hefty (for me) chunk of change and will be volunteering. I didn't need perfection, just a feasible path to victory in November and now we have it. I'm so pumped right now, project 2025 no longer looks like an inevitability. LFG!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Riley Reid: Oh god you're going to make me vote

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Well guys... Have you seen Trump's mental decline since he last ran?! How old is he now?

Surely nobody would be dumb enough to vote someone that old into office now... That is... What we have been saying? Right guys?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, but they don't care. They don't want a competent and coherent president. They want Trump, because he hates the same people they hate, and he's not afraid to say so.

The teams don't play by the same rules and never have.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Can't mentally decline if you were never sound of mind in the first place!

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 month ago (121 children)

I don't understand you people in this thread.

Ever since the debate, people have been calling for Joe Biden to step down from the presidential race and give the place to someone else.

Now I read the comments and everyone is criticizing and accusing the Democrats of not knowing what they're doing? Are you for real? They're doing EXACTLY what people have been asking for. They're doing EXACTLY what needs to be done if they want to win.

Fucking hell you guys, make up your fucking mind.

Sincerely,

A Canadian with severe anxiety over your next presidential election.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Well, to be fair, he should have stepped down a year ago, or at least 3 months ago. I vaguely remember him saying he was going to be a 1 term candidate in 2020.

Anyway, I respect Biden. I honestly think he was a better president than Obama, Bush, Trump and Clinton. Perhaps the best since Carter or JFK.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I vaguely remember him saying he was going to be a 1 term candidate in 2020.

You're correct, he did. Everyone forgot that for some reason. Note that this article is from 2019:

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 month ago (17 children)

Oh boy, I can't wait for armchair pundits who were calling for Joe to step down to now turn around and start to nitpick Harris as if that wasn't going to be the obvious successor.

I'm 100% behind Harris or anyone who gets the Dem nom. Trump must be stopped.

This is still a battle for America's soul. Are we going to accept the first female president or the first convicted felon president? I sure hope the left turns out for this one, even if they aren't super stoked about it, because we might never recover from another Trump disaster.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

I don’t prefer Harris, but am 100% fine with her. Any D 2024. Fuck the republican traitor filth.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

I'm not super stoked about her, and I'll crawl across 5 states filled with broken glass to get back home and vote for her.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

She's a very bland candidate, but at least she's not 80 and fading.

Whether that's enough to get people up off their arses and into voting booths, I don't know.

You really need somebody that's going to invigorate the centre and left, the way Trump excites the right. Dyed in the wool Dems don't care who the candidate is, they'd have been happy with Biden's corpse. The issue is there's not a lot of time left for experimentation in finding one.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A female candidate can put Roe v Wade in the limelight the entire campaign, and that's a really easy winning message (based on all the special elections since it was overturned)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There’s a shitload of time. We’ve been conditioned to think it takes 2 years to run a presidential campaign. Nonsense.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (28 children)

The biggest hot-topic issue this election should have been abortion (and by extension, SCOTUS). But the discussion got side-tracked by all this talk of old age. The debate just reinforced the narrative and concern with Biden. They would have hammered him over and over, with Trump bragging about how quickly he recovered from an injury.

Now, we have:

  • A sittingVP with actual Whitehouse experience, who can take credit for all the economic policies under Biden. Also, a former Senator.
  • A prosecutor and former Attorney General vs a convicted felon.
  • The age issue disappears (in fact, it now becomes a liability against Trump).
  • A woman vs the guy who bragged about killing Roe v. Wade.
  • Future of SCOTUS.

If she just keeps talking about those topics non-stop, she'll do fine.

The only thing better would have been if Biden had resigned to let people see her in the actual role, but this works. She picks a mid-westerner as VP who can stand up to Vance and it's a whole new ballgame.

I'm actually stoked about this race again.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Unfortunately we also have:

  • A non-white candidate
  • A non-male candidate
  • A very sexist and racist electorate, who basically voted Trump in because they were so upset by the election of Barack Hussein Obama

It remains to be seen if the racists and sexists will prevail.

Having said that, this might energize women who are on the fence and want to see the first female president. It might energize black voters. It will almost certainly energize Indian voters, possibly even all South-Asian voters. It will definitely energize voters who were worried about the age of the candidates. And now, suddenly, Trump has to go on the defensive about his age.

As long as all the democrats fall in line and push for Kamala, it might go really well. If Hillary Clinton goes out and works for Kamala, it could energize the people who are still angry about her loss, and can now channel that into the new option for a first female president. If Biden campaigns for her, it could reassure all the people who just wanted some stability.

OTOH, if there is infighting, and people trying to take her down so that they can become the nominee, then that could be trouble too.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (14 children)

That’s why I’m never gonna cancel my USA subscription. Your shows always have a crazy twist right before the season finale.

Jokes aside: Not a single person who even considers voting for Trump is worth any hassle. Their vote is a coin flip on fucking acid. The dems should try to animate the lazy nonvoting pricks.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I respect the decision and it means he goes out on top. It must have been a difficult decision, but he was one of the better presidents (I see an historian pol ranking him 14th best) and I believe history will remember him even better. I wish Joe Biden all the best in retirement.

Now comes the hard part. How do we avoid him having to say “I told you so”? How do we avoid repeating the disaster of the worst ranked President in history?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Let's fucking do this. Let's smash these fascist fuckwits.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (24 children)

I know people will say this is bad, a new campaign will be rushed, etc. But I think we all know Biden was an excuse for many not to vote, or worse, to vote for Trump. Withdrawing will be his legacy when we win, not his failing.

Thank you President Biden. You are a hero.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Biden absolutely did the right thing and, perhaps, the most courageous thing.

Democrats would have coalesced around him if decided to keep going but we've been begging him to step aside. This is a key difference between Trump "fans" and Biden voters. We're not drawn to him as a personality.

Once a candidate is selected, I don't care who it is, we must support them because not doing so is voting for an end to democracy.

The fact that we're here is a travesty.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This whole Biden stepping down vs Trump saga is a metaphor for the American baby boomer generation's approaches to their own reckoning of their old age and their reluctance to pass down the torch to another generation.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh God yes, and it is reflected in my own family members who are all in their 70s. They strongly believe that a 70 or 80 year old is in "the prime of their life" and that "I have never been of sharper mind and more capable than at the age of 74."

Just totally delusional. "Me" generation indeed.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking.

I feel really bad for Biden. There's more that he wants to do. But he's gotten too old to be able to do those things. But he's accepted it, and he should be respected for that.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (7 children)

This decision really raises my opinion of Biden so much. God damn do I love that man, he is truly a great person who dedicated his life to serve his country, literally. He honestly had a great term given the circumstances, and the only thing he probably should have done differently is to not run for reelection to begin with. But he seemed to genuinely believe he could win and stave off Trump. Now that that seemed impossible, he makes a very courageous decision that a lot of people probably wouldn't have made and puts the country ahead of his ego. Lots of respect from me, and I hope this reinvigorates the democratic base and makes the future brighter for all of us.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Now that Biden doesn't care about reelection, what kind of "Official acts" might he do?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Now they have a new excuse of not doing anything important or interesting so they don't "taint" Harris.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I got the email at work this afternoon, and boy did I let out a sigh, not so much in relief, but in hope. Good for you for finishing your presidency on top, Biden. I hope he, Harris, and their staff are seeing the (general) commendation in communities like this. I really hope we can rally people to get behind Harris; I think it will be so much less of an uphill battle now to get the indifferent and the disillusioned and the "but they're both old" voters out there with confidence.

I was holding back on donating, but I want to pitch in now. Does anyone know if you can donate as an employee of a federal contractor (i.e. I don't hold the contract or a subcontract, I get paid by the contractor like any other employee, but my badge does say "contractor"). I can't find a confirmatory answer online, and I don't want to make a compromising donation since "not a federal contractor" is a requirement in the ActBlue fine print.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm nervous. Biden was a flawed candidate, but he already beat Trump once and had the incumbent advantage. Harris was a very unpopular candidate in 2020, and it's unknown if any other candidate will do better against Trump. But since Biden chose to do this, there's no doubt he made the right decision for him.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As far as I can tell based on articles I've read, he really wanted to run, but the party was getting divided over calls for him to step down. He must have figured that the infighting would take away his incumbent advantage

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

They were losing donors. Unfortunately, without money, forget it.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not gonna pretend that I love Harris, but this does make me energized enough to try and convince others to vote for her.

I think the hard part is going to be getting Trump to agree to debate her, but she should be able to kick his ass and hit him hard on the issues that matter for this election, as opposed to doddling on a stage arguing about golf.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I was not turning out for Joe. Even if its Harris im voting now. Id prefer it not be Harris, but a much younger president, starting a first term of hopefully 2, we're definitely taking back some Court seats.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I would have turned out for Joe, no question. Any day. I'll also turn out for Harris or any of the other Democratic frontrunners. The alternative is Trump.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep, I'll pokemon go to the polls now. Harris would not be my first pick, but it would be dumb for me to demand that biden step down and still not vote when my demand is met.

Democrats have listened to their voters and they deserve to be rewarded for that.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (6 children)

For all of y'all anxiety-pilled people: this is great news. Biden was stuck in negative momentum because his health issues had been exposed and were not going to stop resulting in terrible headlines, which is a problem whoever comes next is not going to have, unless the delegates are somehow stupid enough to pull another dinosaur from below the rug.

More interestingly: now that Biden has pulled out because he's patently too old, as it was a concern for plenty of voters, this is a golden opportunity to put the focus on the other candidate whose age is a somewhat less obvious but still noticeable issue.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Wait wait, let me guess, now all of the sudden we're not literally fascists for thinking that it would be best if Biden stepped down. A sincere fuck you too everyone who commented accordingly for the last month.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

for everyone sake: phew. i feel sorry for him, he obviously lacks energy and needs to not be trying to run america and fight trump.

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