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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And keep in mind, the falcon sensor exists for Linux. All those big companies largely use it.

Essentially we just got lucky that their buggy patch only affected the windows version of the sensor in a showstopping way. Could have been all major OS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I don't think the Linux culture is very similar to the windows culture. At least for me personally, I wouldn't use crowdstrike and let them install whatever they want into my environment.

Maybe it's just me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It's not your machine, your choice of distro, or your choice of specific packages to use or not use. It's a work tool you get handed as part of a job. So whether CrowdStrike runs on it or not is not your decision and you aren't allowed (and usually not capable) to change that.

That's an entirely different situation from one where you get a PC to do with as you please and set up yourself, or a private machine.

Plus we're mostly talking endpoint devices for non-technical users with many of these difficult-to-fix devices as techs have to drive out to them. The users expect a tool, and they get a tool. A Linux would be customized and utterly locked down, and part of that would be the endpoint protection software.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Are you an admin in a corporate data center? If not, you're not in the target audience for that product.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We tried to fight against having to install Crowstrike on our Linux servers but got overruled by upper management without discussion. I assume we are not the only ones with that experience in the world due to the need to check a checkbox for some flimsy audit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You're actually confirming their point about culture though. The fact that you couldn't stop them doesn't mean that it also happened to everybody else: some management may have listened. Linux users abhor adding weird shit to their OS, Windows users do it all the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Essentially no one has crowdstrike on their personal machines. Not Windows users, Mac users, or Linux users. So it's corporate/large organization culture that matters. And they absolutely use it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Probably not. Most Linux admins know their systems and are able to navigate out of the situation with ease. But also most people don't use any corporate off-the-shelf software, because there are better options that are freely available.

Furthermore a Linux installation is dedicated and slim for one single purpose. The flexibility creates diversity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This combination of arrogance and complacency sort of thinking is how it does happen on Linux one day.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

2038 is the next big thing to hit older *nix based OS. It will be Y2K all over again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe on my 32-bit ARM server with ancient kernel it will. Any 64-bit machine is immune.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

...unless it's running software that uses signed 32-bit timestamps, or stores data using that format.

The point about the "millennium bug" was that it was a category of problems that required (hundreds of) thousands of fixes. It didn't matter if your OS was immune, because the OS isn't where the value is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

...timestamp is signed? Why?

Edit: Oh damn, I never noticed that the timestamp is indeed signed. For anyone curious, it is mostly historical as early C didn't really have a concept of unsigned