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Boss and former coworker got into a very amusing argument over this and it got me curious.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The name "yam" is used for a few different root vegetables.

The word is from West Africa and refers originally to Dioscorea yams, which are found in many parts of the world — having been independently domesticated in Africa, Asia, and the Americas. The word "yam" is related to the Fulani word for "to eat", and was introduced into European languages by way of Portuguese colonizers.

But in the US, "yam" almost always refers to a variety of sweet-potato (Ipomoea genus), which is more closely related to a morning-glory flower than to either Dioscorea or a true potato (which is a Solanum nightshade).

Both sweet-potatoes and potatoes are native to the Americas. Sweet-potatoes probably were grown first in the Yucatán or in eastern South America, while true potatoes are from Peru and western South America.

Meanwhile in New Zealand, a "yam" is oca, an Oxalis species — close relatives of sourgrass and redwood sorrel. And in Malaysia, "yam" is taro root!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

This guy knows his potatoes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The word “yam” is related to the Fulani word for “to eat"

The etymology is a bit messy. It might be from Fula, but it's probably from Wolof ⟨ñàmbi⟩. Nowadays the Wolof word means yucca, but given that yucca is from the Americas, odds are that it was originally used for any edible root; or potentially another local root.

Either way (from Fula or Wolof), the word ended in Portuguese as ⟨inhame⟩ [iɲɐ̃.me]. Nowadays it refers to taro, but before that English borrowed ⟨inhame⟩ as ⟨yam⟩.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Mmmmm, oca. Also in New Zealand.... kūmara.

[–] TheSaneWriter 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see. So it's a little bit like how in the U.S. pickles refers to pickled cucumbers, but in other places pickles can refer to other pickled foods. Yams are to sweet potatoes what pickles are to pickled cucumbers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another fun layer I've encountered recently has been "pickles" referring to a specific variety of (non-pickled) cucumbers that are usually used for pickling. So pickles are pickled pickles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's totally pickled.

Where has that video disappeared?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And now do kūmara! They sometimes get called sweet potatoes in New Zealand

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Looking them up, it sounds like they're the same species as American sweet-potato, which is one more bit of evidence for early contact between Polynesians and South America.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Our cans of sweet potatoes have an alternate label on the back that says yams, so apparently not much. (This is in the USA)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You have sweet potato's in cans? That sounds awful.are they pre-cooked? I don't understand why?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They’re quicker for making sweet potato pie since they’re already cooked. You add plenty of other ingredients to the filling so there’s less difference in the final product between canned and fresh

[–] TheSaneWriter 3 points 1 year ago

They're primarily used in as an ingredient. Often they are suspended in a sweet syrup and are thoroughly mashed to make a pie filling, it's actually not bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

USA has thanksgiving in a can, Christmas dinner in a can, even SPAM in a can.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

yeah it says they're yams, but they have no relation to yams at all

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

yams and sweet potatoes are not the same. Yams have rough, dark brown skin that is often compared to tree bark, and their flesh is dry and starchy like a regular potato. Sweet potatoes have smooth reddish skin, softer flesh (when cooked), and a sweet flavor.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is that the reason the other guy is now a former coworker?

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