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[–] [email protected] 170 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An understanding of the world at large is overwhelming versus remaining in a bubble.

[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think caring what happens to the world at large is a pretty big emotional burden to carry.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

So the takeaway is children who are taught to care about others are more depressed?

Makes sense given the world we're in.

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 year ago (2 children)

most relevant example of "ignorance is bliss"

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember crying as a kid when I first understood this saying, it made me so mad to know that some people get to remain stupidly ignorant

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recall being pretty upset when I wrapped my head around that saying as a kid, too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You all sound so humble. I was literal trash and asked “why must I be cursed to be such a geeeeeenius??!”

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could also be described as "Too thick to know how fucked you are".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's really much more aggressive than that at this point.. it actually is a game of "give the liberals all the worry" for them.. or, act like a screaming child, and treat liberals like mommy..

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Expecting mommy to fix everything while at the same time throwing endless tantrums making it harder if not impossible?

Yeah, that checks out.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would say some of this depends on the reaction of the family and peers. If you are a child in a liberal family and said you need help with depression the chances of you getting help and it getting reported is much greater than if your are in a consecutive family.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m quite sure most liberal families are consecutive, too. :D

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Parallel families are a thing, following a divorce where custody is shared for example. :)

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago

Ignorance is bliss

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Other studies have shown that conservatives are also much more ignorant than liberals. By the transitive properties, this is just confirmation that "ignorance is bliss."

It's easier to he happy when you don't know how fucked up the world is.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt!

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, well when you're so delusional you think climate change doesn't exist, 10 year old rape victims should be forced to give birth and LGBTQ people who are oppressed deserve it, you're less unhappy about the state of the country.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean, conservatives go out of their way to know as little as possible, feel as little as possible, and help others as little as possible. It doesn't surprise me that the group of people who think intelligence is weakness, also don't have strong moral compasses or compassion for anyone else.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So... hysterical and stubborn, unempathetic ignorance is bliss. Until it isn't. Which is to say - until whatever toxic regressive bullshit they have entrenched themselves upon affects them directly.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, I grew up conservative and I started swinging in high school (then admitted it to myself in college) mostly over gay rights, which were becoming more and more front and center debate at the time. At the time I would have said I was 100% straight and 100% woman, but I had gay friends and I wanted them to have all the things I could have. It was my first ideological break.

Sometimes it you, sometimes it's the people you care about which get affected. While it might be true that people with low empathy might have to be directly effected, the reality is that for most people it will be simply gaining an affected friend. This is why college makes you liberal, by the way. It's not the teachings, it's the fact that you spend time rubbing elbows with real people who turn out to be nothing like the caricatures you were told they would be.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

My ex-husband's kid did the same thing. When they were in elementary school, they told me we should hate a celebrity because they're gay (obviously parroted from their born-again mom and creepy youth pastor stepdad). Then in middle school, they made a gay friend and their mom threatened to make them change schools, and I think that was one of the first big wtf moments where their lived experiences really clashed with what they were told at home. It kept happening as they made more diverse friends and figured out most of us are just trying to live our lives in peace, not eat babies on the weekends at our interracial sodomy parties or whatever.

Now they're a young non-binary adult who is full on pro LGBTQ+ rights, pro-choice, anti-racist, etc. I'm sure their mom blames their dad, but all he really ever did was be supportive and clear that in his house, bigotry wouldn't be tolerated.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Hey maybe it’s because it’s really fucking depressing to watch a bunch of reactionary theocratic nationalist racist imbeciles rig our voting systems so it’s impossible for them to not win and then constantly read stories about how those same imbeciles are doing catastrophic amounts of damage to so many things in so many ways that it would be difficult to name them all?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

scores increased for all adolescents after 2010, but increases were most pronounced for female liberal adolescents

Gee I wonder what could possibly be depressing the female liberal teens.

What a stupid study.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Maybe because they’re not delusional about the state of the world we live in that these right wing nut jobs seem to be hell-bent on making worse until we’re all living in a post-apocalyptic Gillead. I’m fucking depressed too.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

The tiny differential (look at the actual numbers) between liberal/conservatives isn't much of a story, but it makes for good clickbait and will help the researchers establish themselves in their discipline.

I think maybe the biggest takeaway from this article is that it points out that all seniors in high school have reported steadily increasing depression over the last thirteen years. I'm willing to bet this trend started earlier in the 2000s. And it's right in line with more and more and more and more and more of all the available money ending up in the hands of fewer and fewer people. Everyone is more depressed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

🎶🎶🎶

It's the terror of knowing what this world is about

Watching some good friends screaming, 'Let me out'

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it probably comes down to how you're raised. Conservatives will tell their kids black and white things. Something is either good or bad whereas liberals will try to insert the very real nuance into things.

Kids need things to be black and white when they're very young because they don't have the mental capacity to handle a lot of nuance, so trying to teach it early will give them a negative outlook on the world even if it's a realistic idea about things. Where conservative parents faulter is they never teach the nuance, so their kids spend a good chunk of their adult years thinking black and white which is obviously wrong even if they're happier.

A good tactic is give a positive, black and white outlook on the world when kids are young and add complexity as they go.

Ex: tell a young kid that cops are good people to call when there's an emergency. As they get older, and the very real atrocious things they do appear on the news, you keep adding to the truth, so when they're grown, and if they're a POC like my son, they learn to be wary of cops, but still can 911 in an emergency. That you don't automatically assume ACAB, but you don't have to trust them, know your rights, etc

I hope all that makes sense

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, having empathy will do that to a person.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Information in general makes people more depressed.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

The state of the world will do that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, because when you are raised conservative, that comes with a lot of lies and indoctrination that some mysterious entity out there actually loves you and that you too can be rich like Bill gates or Elon musk.

Then you grow up and realize you weren't raised or loved at all, just lied to.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm liberal, but I stay sane by not giving a fuck any more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

"not giving a fuck" - a classic sign of depression.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I wonder which is the cause and which is the effect, or if neither is the cause.

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