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Tesla was so swamped with complaints about driving ranges that it created a secret team to cancel owners' service appointments, source says::To suppress the volume of complaints the automaker created a secret "Diversion Team" in Las Vegas to cancel appointments, Reuters reported.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Instead of displaying the true driving range, the software provided a "rosy" projection of how far cars could drive before needing to be recharged, the report said. The distance EVs can travel before needing to be recharged is one of the main disadvantages the cars face in comparison with gas vehicles. The order to inflate the driving range displayed on the cars was given by Tesla's CEO Elon Musk around 10 years ago, according to Reuters.

If you know the true answer, but you give your customer a false answer to make your product look better than it is, there's a word for that. It's "fraud".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Which reminds me of Apple and MS and Google and who not too...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry for party pooping the Tesla hate train, but the milage estimate when navigation is of is directly correlated to battery state of charge. Its basicly just SoC x factor. Its not dynamic, as in a Kia or BMW. The factor is calculated from officoal EPA range test. Should it be dynamic? Maybe, but you get a true estimate when you navigate to a destination anyway. This is probably done so they could market the car with certain range, same as many other manufacturers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, I have a Niro EV and it tries pretty hard to extrapolate the range based on the current conditions, so for example if it's colder outside than the range is less (because it needs to keep the batteries warm), and if you switch on air conditioning or the heater then it immediately lowers the range to account for the extra drain. Occasionally it gets the range prediction wrong, but it really does seem to try to do its best. I just assumed that all EVs work this way.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Niro is from Nissan though. Most reputable manufacturers do produce pretty solid EVs. Tesla is a scam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kia makes the Niro, not Nissan.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah right. Kia is also more reputable though.

Tesla doesn't really offer anything to the EV market that other more established makers don't. Except for poor build quality, panel gaps, and a memelord of a CEO.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In fairness, I am also jealous of their Supercharger network, having had some bad experiences on the very few occasions when I've needed a DC fast charge and it seemed like nothing around was working. I hope that it gets upgraded to support CCS in at least some locations so I can start being able to use them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The superchargers are also stupid, but more so in a regulatory sense. If EVs are to be viable they ought have standardised connectors and methods of charging. Having a private company own that is beyond idiotic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It is perfectly fine as long as they release the standard and make it unencumbered by licensing, which Tesla has done for NACS. Many standards originally came from companies.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Won't someone think of the empty tunnel in Vegas? :(

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

This is demonstrably false. If you get a brand new Tesla and charge it to 100%, the range on the screen will be the EPA range. That’s not a “rosy” prediction, that’s the prediction that companies must legally use in their sales material in the US.

Also, the BI article says this was 10 years ago, but the Reuters article opens talking about the Model 3, which was only released 5 years ago. But it’s coming from an unnamed source who claims it was a decade ago - not exactly reliable.