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This is primarily talking about state dependence with ADHD medication (stimulants).

State dependence is when information that is learned while taking ADHD medication is difficult to recall when not in the same physiological state (when not on ADHD meds).

I started taking Vyvanse about 7.5 years ago, and at that time I started learning so much more than I ever have. I hyperfocused on computers, learned how to program in multiple programming languages, I learned a lot about Linux. During that time, I also learned a lot about 3D printing and mechanical engineering, and made a lot of cool things. About 2 years ago, my tolerance to the meds reached a certain threshold where I stopped being able to recall all the things I have learned.

When I take double my prescribed dose (which I am not advising you to do), I can reach that state of clarity and recall everything again, but only for a few hours, and then I crash lasting a few days. It's not healthy for me to continuously do this, and my dose is already too high for my doctor to raise it anymore (90mg concerta).

Today I read about state dependence in a wellness book that has a section about stimulants and ADHD, and it explains why I can't remember or do any of the computer-related things I used to do. I wish there was a way to recall all the information I've learned without having to raise my dose or use any sort of substance. It's really a pickle of a situation.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My experience after I chose to go like 4 months without meds is that after I have been on the meds for a few years I learned within a few months to actually be fully functional without meds, though i still function better on meds, but i can actually learn and get stuff done without meds

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I came off meds against my will (finances) and have been pleasantly surprised at how much has stuck with me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yea it's incredible that they still help l, i think it's because you unconsciously train your brain

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Every day somebody posts something in here that makes me want to fuckin scream. Yet another thing I have to be worried about happening to me. I'm studying some of the same things OP mentioned and this just makes me want to give the fuck up.

Edit: sorry y'all, just now realizing that I'm caffeine cranky.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Write it down and look at the notes later on.
I work in IT and sure do need more time to implement similar stuff at home with similar and limited toys but I can do it.

My suggestion (if you can): Do some days with and some without.

My medication since I am 12 is ritalin 30mg on 60kg body weight (increased from 20mg).

Interesting topic though. Wasnt on my radar at all nor was I "warned"/informed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Practice makes perfect.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Sounds like some folks haven't heard the classic highschool burnout phrase, "study high, test high."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)