Lemmy

The “Not enough mod tools” complaint is valid and I hope that improves as the platform moves forward.

I DO NOT get the disdain for the Lemmy userbase. I’ve been here for the past 4-5 months and can say I’ve had so many more meaningful and fulfilling conversations here on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit in the 10 years I was there.

I think it’s the same situation as between a small town and a big city. Reddit is huge and with a large number of people; you’re going to statistically get a larger number of assholes. Not to mention there are tens of thousands of people commenting on anything that hits r/all, so there’s no chance someone else is going to read your 1 comment that is drowning in a sea of other comments.

Lemmy feels more like a small town. Things move a little slower here, but there’s less competition to have your voice heard, and I end up seeing some of the same users time and time again across the Fediverse. I think that smaller feel means more people have a chance to see your content without it getting drowned out by the masses, which means more opportunity to make connections.

Some people suck, but Lemmy has been fucking awesome for me so far and I love this place because of that.

As a 10+ year reddit user who has switched 98% to Lemmy, only checking reddit on my computer every couple days: Lemmy is completely fine, and I have seamlessly transitioned from Reddit.

Its userbase is more technical than Reddit's, and there's not as much content. But it is a perfectly good Reddit alternative. I find it isn't as addictive as reddit, which is awesome. I just wish there were more educational communities akin to AskHistorians, AskScience, etc.

Lotta people coming here from Reddit expecting 1:1 replacement, and then get pissy that the 2 man dev team that's just trying to keep up with this sudden burst in activity isn't at parity with the multi-million dollar company that's been developing their site for almost 2 decades.

Honestly, I'm just tired of the constant comparison. Lemmy can be it's own thing. It's a work in progress and it has a lot of promise, but for anyone looking for their reddit experience, there's really only one place to get that.

The only times I've seen toxicity like this is ironically whenever there is a big wave of reddit user influx, things usually settle down for a while as they adapt to the cultures here (or get banned), it's not as much of an Eternal September as much as it is a Irregularly Scheduled September.

Most of the active comms here are smaller but better quality than their subreddit equivalent. You even get good discussions here on memes sometimes. (Politics and News here still could be better, though.)

For someone who's been very unhappy with the state of social media for quite a while, Lemmy is a breath of fresh air, even though there are definitely growing pains.

"I don't like Reddit.

Its interface is ugly as sin. There are fewer users there and they're all pretentious, extremely liberal, and anti American."

-Some Digg user circa 2008/2009 (probably)

100% agree. I'm literally only here because I can't tolerate Reddit anymore and I'm addicted to having some bullshit to read on my phone.

This isn't a great website guys sorry. I don't have a better option, and I dont have suggestions on how to make it better. You can't. It's a society issue, not a tech or gui issues. I'm not sure I can think of a single website that I enjoy visiting anymore. I'm addicted; it's a habit I'm trying to break slowly.

Lemmy has just enough engagement so that I don't feel like I'm browsing a cemetery, and it's my methadone currently for my dwindling reddit addiction.

And before you try to tell me this isn't just another toxic shithole, last time I expressed this sentiment, several users messaged me to let me know I didn't need to be alive if I chose to go that route. I don't even care. I expect it everywhere online now. But it speaks volumes about how fucked up the internet has made us all.

Yes, I'm gonna go touch some grass, and no, you arent gonna talk me into walking off a tall ledge, so don't waste your breath please. I only logged in to make this comment so if someone else out there feels the same way, they don't feel like such a out of place wierdo. How toxic has the internet become when I can't even feel free to be a little bit vulnerable like this without this disclaimer? Is this the experience you wanted?

Disclaimer: I'm a shithead too, and I'm 100% positive I've been a cunt to people here without good cause before as well. Not claiming to be a great user 100% of the time, I'm human, and flawed also, and not all of my ideologies are yours.

Also: there's like 2 topics on this entire fucking platform, and the mods are just as power hungry without any actual accountability at all.

Lol, the user doesn't seem to realize that if everywhere you go and comment, if absolutely everyone is an asshole, then maybe it's you that's the problem...

Guy is hundred percent right. Lemmy is a echo chamber for a certain demographic as vast majority of users are in it.

We either have tech, or politics. Literally every topic ends up in either. We also don't have the differing opinions aspect as just about every debater talks like they're just the different shade of the same color.

Even spicy news that would make any other site a warzone of opinions just echo chambered here. Literally everyone agrees on one conclusion and random two comments that disagree with that having at least -15 points.

I'd rather deal with this supposedly "toxic" lemmy userbase than sift through a thousand comment post where 900 are bot reposts on reddit

I mean, is it? Because I've found it to be an overall better experience so far. Am I just not going to the right instances/communities? I mean, I get that there are some fucked up places in the Fediverse, but I haven't been actively looking for them, and I haven't accidentally stumbled across anything so far.

Redditors complaining about CSAM? Last I checked Reddit had a subreddit called r/18_19 (a porn subreddit for adult teenagers aged under 20) with over 1.5 million subscribers. I sorry, but there is no way that all the posters there are over 18, given Reddit's lax verification practices on NSFW instances. That's some "trust me bro" nonsense. Reddit had r/jailbait and violentacerz not even a decade ago. Spez was there back then too.

I have never seen any CSAM on Lemmy. If it's an issue, it should be dealt with the utmost urgency and concern though.

I miss the random non tech centric communities from Reddit. The userbase here, across the fediverse as a whole gravitates towards more tech focused aspects and while that's fine, you miss out on the random topics / subreddits you'd find on Reddit.

(The answer isn't also 'just start that community here', specially I miss randomly getting topics from subjects I wouldn't even search for, but just get surfaced because of the shear amount of content and users Reddit has)

I was on lemmy.world

well there's your problem

It sounds like the real complaint is that it's different.

Because yeah it's certainly not more toxic. That's laughable. My interactions here have been overwhelmingly better than on reddit.

And the other complaints boil down to "it's small and new, yuck"... Yeah that's a good thing usually. There have been terrible attacks with CSAM but people are handling it and luckily I've never seen a single image like that. On reddit it was not uncommon to see mutilated humans without wanting to even though there was far more time and resources available to prevent that

eh, reddit leans left but there's a good chunk of far right extremists that have infiltrated a lot of subs especially politics ones and turned them to shit.

lemmy leans left but instead of the extreme right we have lots of extreme left and tankies,namely from 2 particular instances.

both kinds of extremists never make any sense, are complete snowflakes, and live in some sort of weird alternate reality where in some cases I can't even tell of they are extreme left or right, they both trend towards extreme levels of authoritarian dick sucking

I think there is some valid complaints to be had against being swarmed by fanatics on Lemmy but there is no way it’s more toxic than Reddit. For the most part I’d say the community is very much the same between the major Lemmy instances and Reddit. Just with more FOSS evangelism and Linux love.

• joins Lemmy.world, notoriously mismanaged instance
• stereotypes the rest based on one experience

lol people are def nicer here. This guy just misses his little friends.

Oh I agree. Maybe not toxic per se, but extremely out of touch. I think what happened is it just became a bigger echo chamber, because from the already echo chamber reddit, all the people who are the type to switch to the fediverse (privacy focused, foss lovers) are on lemmy, with their opinions being spouted back at them, so it feels like everyone agrees, when really they're a minority.

The biggest differing opinion between reddit and lemmy that I see is lemmy's insistence that absolutely everyone should switch to linux. Of course I saw that on reddit a bit too, but it always had some pushback.

And of course there's also the ignorance of the fediverse's problems. Like people just can't comprehend why someone wouldn't switch to Mastodon or Lemmy.

This doesn't apply to all topics though. There is still some good discussion here. Sometimes it can be better than reddit.

What's weird is I don't experience this on hacker news. People seem to be a lot less out of touch, and have a wider variety of opinions. Not entirely sure why, maybe because it's had time to mature?

Lol. I don't have an account anymore, but I was able to lookup the post on Google and found it. Dude seems to be getting ripped apart a bit. It's pretty funny.

Maybe I'm being unfair, but somehow when I read complaints like this about "purity" and "insufferable" and all that, I always assume it's "they downvoted and insulted me when I made a bigoted joke about like transpeople or something".

One thing I've noticed about the alternatives subreddit, is there is a lot of people persuading people against alternatives. It's almost like there was some organising to persuade people there was no alternative.

I mean, when you factor in you'd probably get removed, or shadow-banned, or have your posts removed for mentioning Lemmy, it feels like there is a multifaceted approach to discouraging folk from leaving the reddit teet.

While there is an element of truth, it's scattered in with exaggeration and only focussing on negatives. The objective was to say Lemmy bad, staying good.

No way is Lemmy more toxic than reddit. I find those "well ackshually" folks are much less here.

Seems like this person's main problem is that they went to lemmy.world, which does basically seem like a collection of all the worst redditors.

I know it sounds like I'm taking the piss, but I don't think I've encountered a kinder, more accepting community than Hexbear, due to admins here actually enforcing civility rules. And I'm sure there's an equally chill instance for people who aren't interested in tearing the arms off their boss and drinking blood directly from the limbless wounds.

Elitism ? definitly. Especially linux. But toxic ? I only saw cordials talks in here, with a few trolls here and there.

As for csam I never saw any scrolling a bit every days. I saw people talking about another instance encouraging it and troll spamming, it but never once saw it myself.

What I saw on reddit without searching was almost daily gore. And definitly sone real csam (this was a long time ago, seems to be fixed now)

I have noticed this too. It's better just to not interact. At the end of the day, I just wanted a better link aggregator than what reddit became and it works nicely for that.

maybe it needs a little curation, but once you've blocked the instances, communities and users that are personally annoying to you, it's a fun and engaging place with the usual share of human noise. Maybe some people are happy to have reddit choosing what deserves to reach your eyes, I like to do it myself :)

We don't have unblockable "He gets us" spam.
That in itself is worth any friction I have to overcome to use the 'verse.

I find Lemmy uses to be a little pretentious oft times, extremely narrow minded in it's left leaning views. Very Reddit like in that last regard, perhaps more so.

At the same time, I do find a lot of insightful, clear headed individuals and some genuinely good people, but that also exists on Reddit.

The people running this site are better by far and the mods a little more level headed, but I don't expect that to last because power always corrupts.

I've already seen some people modding a stupid number of places, which is always a bad sign.

We'll see where this place ends up, but it is not as liberated and people here want to believe, and not as immune to corruption as they think.