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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Google is not a search engine. It's an advertising service. Their whole business model revolves around a critical mass of eyeballs, which flock to free services. This will never happen for the average user.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This will never happen for the average user.

Shareholders have different plans for infinite growth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

If anyone ever figures out how to charge people service fees in the afterlife .... there will be service fees in the afterlife

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you say you'd pay for a search engine. Oof. Guys we used to just link useful things at the end of our blog posts and on our myspace pages. Then search engines came in and we didn't have to. Then they killed the SEO placement of blogs. Now you can't find anything useful unless you try their AI. The whole business model is convincing us we need them while they make the internet less efficient to scroll through.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

... do you think MySpace came before search engines?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Replace Myspace with Geocities and it's broadly correct of my experience in 90s internet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There were a ton of search engines in the 90s around the same time Geocities was released. AskJeeves was probably the most popular, but there was Altavista, Lycos, Dogpile, Yahoo... Shit, Google came out in 97, which was only a few years after Geocities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You just dated the hell out of yourself, but also showed how young you are at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Haha, I'm too young to really have lived it, I'm only 26 so... I did experience the start of Facebook and Twitter. I'm very glad people who did live through it are expanding on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Kagi is like google was 10 years ago though, useable and useful, while Google has morphed an SEO trashcan. I wouldn't pay them any amount for current quality

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is literally how their search API works. Except the limit is more like 25 queries a day and the price would be closer to $40/mo for average user's usage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Just to clarify. The API pricing is 100 requests per day for free and $5 for every 1000 requests over that. But, the API is limited to 10 items per request. Their own UI provides up to 100 results per page (the setting seems to be hidden now, but is still active for users who set it before), which would require multiple requests to match, plus an image and/or video carousels each of which require an additional query, opening images tab preloads 50 images just to fill the screen, which is 4 more requests minimum for any image search, and, given how clicking each image also loads a bunch of related images, the estimate of 4 requests per search is very conservative. I use search on average about 80 times a day, and, doing the math, it would cost me on average $33.48 per month to do my searches using their API instead of using the free and unlimited official UI. This is ridiculous. And then twitter and reddit did exactly the same thing, too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd pay for google if they didn't steal my data.