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Disney has announced it will stop releasing DVDs and Blu-ray discs in Australia.::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (5 children)

On one hand, I'm glad that less plastic is going to end up in landfill.

On the other, you'll own nothing and be happy.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have downloaded every movie that I've paid for on every platform where I have paid for movies. If they suddenly decide that I can't watch those movies any more I can say, "Fuck you, yes I can."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the way!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

To the high seas!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It sucks. Physical media has a higher bitrate than any streaming service ever conceived of. Streaming is great for random shit to watch, but it fails miserably when compared to video and audio playback from a high-quality physical media.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah from an audio/video quality standpoint we've taken a big step backwards with streaming. I'd rather watch an HD blu-ray movie than a 4K stream from Netflix or Max. With a semi decent multi-channel sound system the streaming offering is even more stark.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think your first statement is true anymore. Apple Music provides digital masters and full Atmos for streaming and downloads.

Their older songs are always re mastered or enhanced for the best quality imaginable. Sadly, Spotify doesn’t even come close, but streaming or downloading digital copies these days is quite good.

In fact, out of all the things, music is really easy to get these days compared to say 20 years ago when the RIAA and MPAA were waging war with the internet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The news article talks about the discontinuation of video physical releases, while you are correct in the sense that you can find high quality audio digitally, i am unaware of anything comparable for video.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a counterpoint to your landfill comment, if a movie is played 5 times off of the same blu ray disc or streamed 5 times from the Disney+ servers which is more environmentally harmful?

It doesn’t take much energy to press a disc and once the disc is pressed, it could theoretically be viewed for at least several decades to hundred of years if stored correctly.

The threshold for one blu ray disc to be more environmentally friendly than a streaming movie is 4 views. Source: Ars Technica

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Own nothing produced by Disney, and be ecstatic..

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe they can stop releasing shit movies here as well, while they are at it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Let's not overdo this. Besides they've already got The little Mermaid's Bambi Big Adventure in the tubes.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do they not work upside down........

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do. It's the spinning backwards that causes problems.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it's best not to do that with Disney movies...

Most are full of satanic messages when spun backwards /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Beatles albums too. Or so I've heard.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is problematic. Australia and New Zealand are in Region 4, I suspect this is killing all of region 4 (Australia, New Zealand, the Pacific Islands, Central America, Mexico, South America, and the Caribbean). This means they cannot watch at the highest quality, none of the streaming services are as good as a local blu-ray or local Plex/Jellyfin/Emby. Also problematic for preservation, especially given services removing content so it is no longer available at all.

If I could buy unencumbered digital files for my local server, I wouldn't have that much problem with discontinuing physical releases. Instead best case I can get it a digital "copy" that is tied to a specific service (movies anywhere, google play, apple, etc.). Which content has also been removed from, even though you bought it. I've been buying DRM free music for around a decade and things have been fine. I would have to think really hard of the last time I bought a CD, as I've been buying flac encoded audio exclusively for a few years now (bandcamp.com, us.7digital.com, prostudiomasters.com, hdtracks.com). I'd really like to do the same for movies and series, including extras.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Are you saying there will be an influx of pirates in the Caribbean?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm reminded of Hollywood studios that destroyed films to make room for new ones in the first half of the previous century. Nothing could be less-forward-looking.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Or just not being careful with storage. Like I don't know, keeping only one copy in one location with early films were made highly flammable materials.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A new dvd/blueray drive for a PC needs to have it's region set the first time it encounters a region locked disk. I believe most can be reset a maximum of 5 times before it locks.
Build yourself a "Media Player PC" and set the region to US.

Or sail the high seas like they seem to want you force you to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not everyone is going to understand they need another drive. It just stinks.

It likely will encourage more people to sail the high seas.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Could you get equipment to play media from other regions? When I was importing stuff from Japan to the US, I had to get a regionless player.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I wonder what the impact on piracy will be? It's probably harder to rip streaming services than it is to rip blu-rays...

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There only needs to be a couple people knowing how to get a rip for it to end up everywhere.

If physical releases start disappearing everywhere, I can see piracy getting a significant boost. It will be the only way to "own" a movie and be sure you can still watch it whenever you want. Disney has been removing content from its service already, even some recent stuff.

I know Gabe Newell's old quote is being parroted a lot but it's relevant : "Piracy is not a pricing issue, it's a service issue". Steam may be a digital market, but it doesn't require a continued paid subscription to access stuff you've paid for, and it doesn't delist games whenever it feels like it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FWIW, Gabe’s argument isn’t against subscriptions. The point in that quote is that legal access to content curbs piracy. Piracy will of course always exist, but there’s also customers that are willing to pay if is convenient and accessible.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Needing to subscribe to multiple different services to get everything you'd want and them constantly upping the prices is a service problem, no?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it doesn't delist games whenever it feels like it.

You're still trusting a company to have your game library available in the future. Gaben will die at some point, someone will take over for him, we don't know what will happen with Valve in 10, 20 or 30 years...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Gaben will die at some point

I won't allow it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe someone with a better grip on work teams and projects will finally come to an end and we'll get HL3 at last!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

There are another dozen drm platforms you will survive

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, out of all the companies that I have boight stuff from, Valve is the one I trust the most

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Why? Unless it's DRM free and you've got a copy downloaded then your shit can be wiped out whenever they feel like it and it's not as if accounts have never been banned from the platform, cutting people from thousands of dollars worth of stuff...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

But it can remove music from games you already purchased.

Music licensing for games is bullshit, and physical (or a trip to the high seas) is the only way around it.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its trivially more difficult to do webrips. It will likely have the opposite effect of what you're thinking of, some people that would buy blurays will just pirate now.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If someone buys a disc, they own it and it's a one off. To be tied to subscription services will see the Jolly Roger fly again in Australia.

Remember when we were the country known to be the largest pirates?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We don’t even crack the top ten now. We used to be cool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's get the old crew back together!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I never stopped sailing my friend.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

So long as you are using a cable to send images and video to a TV, someone will find a way to intercept and record it.

The bigger issue is that Blurays are the highest quality video there is, especially when it comes to audio. For those who do care this is deviating.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Can't have rescuers down under.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Bob Iger sucks

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And then their price will skyrocket on eBay