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EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're losing an argument ;)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most defederation isn’t because people are disagreeing though. It’s because the people they’re defederating from are assholes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

OP is a three day old account. They know this, this meme is just them crying about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Instance know for trolling and being assholes is eventually defederated

You just don't understand us!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To build on this point: I don’t get the whole “anti-echo chamber” thing and this demand we entertain said assholes. We select people to be friends we generally like and agree with. We often don’t associate with people we don’t like or disagree with. Why should our forums be some totally egalitarian social exposure? That’s literally never been the case ever. We read what we want to read. We talk to who we want to talk to. I’m not going to be guilted into listening to some jerk who thinks gay people shouldn’t marry and belong in hell. I don’t want to share a beer with them, I would never invite them to dinner in my home, so why should I have to deal with them living rent free in my mind because I saw some ignorant post of theirs and they called someone a slur? Hell, why should I be forced by some arbitrary, inconsistent moral code to deal with people who are simply disruptive/obnoxious?

I have plenty of work colleagues and family I disagree with, I read sources I don’t always love. I get plenty of exposure to other ways of thinking and ideas, at least no less than anyone else does. Do I think people can go too far and literally only surround themselves with “yes men” socially? Sure. But come on. How many of us actually spend equal time with people we both agree and disagree ideologically with?

The only people whining about defederating either don’t understand what it is or are butthurt because people are collectively showing them the door, and there is little they can do about it. 

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah you're right. It's not a binary choice between echo chamber and non-echo chamber. It's just an open community where trolling antisocial behaviour is discouraged. If admins of an instance are encouraging antisocial behaviour then the only solution is to defederate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean hexbear, kbin, and lemmygrad?

I hope so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What's wrong with kbin?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You might wish to be aware that your instance's top-level domain was chosen because ML stands for "Marxism-Leninism", and that the main admin of lemmy.ml has a photo of Mao as his profile banner. So you're probably going to have a hard time convincing your instance's admins to defederate from Hexbear and Lemmygrad, all things considered.

Edit: While .ml is often used as a free TLD, lemmy.ml paid for that domain. Whether the use of the .ml TLD was then a deliberate reference to Dessalines' outspoken political views is... evidently less certain than I thought. This was just a claim that I heard, it seemed right, I took it as fact, I repeated it here, I'm sorry. That was irresponsible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hexbear is known for trolling, regardless of their political stance, unless there is a material analysis that pig poop balls advances the cause somehow.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just saying that if one wishes to be defederated from Hexbear, then one should migrate off of lemmy.ml first. The admins of that instance are not going to be open to defederating Hexbear.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The funniest part is when two instances federate, but the userbases of both instances want to defederate with each other immediately afterwards lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Isn't dbzer0 defederated from a bunch? That kinda sucks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the 'thing you dont agree' with is hate speech or shit promotting violence for example that's the only sane option you have lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Find me one neoliberal who isn't promoting violence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Here's a comment thread where a Hexbear user said "I hope to kill people like you" because I simply said I supported democratic socialism.

Going on any Hexbear instance people froth over telling anyone right of Karl Marx to "get up against the wall". You guys are, and will always be, a joke.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

because I simply said I supported democratic socialism.

so you promoted violence first?
i'm failing to see your complaint here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Extreme violence is still violence. Industrial violence on a massive scale is still violence. You are advocating for violence, terrible violence, and then getting upset someone else advocated for comparatively mild violence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I simply said I supported democratic socialism

So you said that you support the regime of extreme global inequality against the third world in order to maintain treats in the first.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I support what are realistic policies actually will push the status quo in the direction you want.

Larping on the internet waiting for a revolution to occur seems like a nice fantasy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

IDK what country you're from, but in America at least, a democratic socialist has about as much likelihood of being elected to any given office as a communist does, so if you're looking for "realistic" policies you should look elsewhere.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Haha, classic Catradora_Stalinism, what a rascal.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She would make a great staffer in the Lubyanka.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

She's probably like 16 dude chill and welcome to the Internet where people fling the most unhinged nonsense at each other without a second thought

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

mfer im in college im crying ahhhhhhhh

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hah classic Catradora bamboozle you rascal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

IM NOT CRINGE! IM NOT CRINGE! IM BASED! BASED!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Duality of Posts

Pixels on Screen, 2023.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An aggressive communist with no sense of how the world works could be a child? You're the most self aware Hexbear user.

Also lol to "dude chill". I'm not the one fantasizing about murdering people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She's not here, do you want me to pop into that thread and chastise her for you?

My mind just boggles at the fact that anyone is taking this two bit reddit clone seriously enough to carry a grudge longer that the lifespan of a single thread.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're doing a lot of coping with that seething.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm fucking livid

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Funny how one instance is the one everyone wants to defederate from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Currently. Of course in the past it was exploding heads for being Nazis, Lemmygrad for being insufferable tankies, then Burggit for lolicon, now hexbear for being insufferable tankies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heck I think Lemmygrad is more tolerable than Hexbear, by a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do they allow downvotes? Hexbear doesn't which means everything they disagree with gets a reply with a handful of large emoji.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

people hate getting called out for their terrible opinions shrug-outta-hecks

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lol is that why hexbear is defederating from so many instances?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, let's enter discussion with the literal Nazis so we can try to understand them. There might be nuance to their calls for mass genocide.

Fuck off OP.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hitler wasn’t all bad. After all, he did kill Hitler.

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