this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2023
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The best part of the fediverse is that anyone can run their own server. The downside of this is that anyone can easily create hordes of fake accounts, as I will now demonstrate.

Fighting fake accounts is hard and most implementations do not currently have an effective way of filtering out fake accounts. I'm sure that the developers will step in if this becomes a bigger problem. Until then, remember that votes are just a number.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This was a problem on reddit too. Anyone could create accounts - heck, I had 8 accounts:

one main, one alt, one "professional" (linked publicly on my website), and five for my bots (whose accounts were optimistically created, but were never properly run). I had all 8 accounts signed in on my third-party app and I could easily manipulate votes on the posts I posted.

I feel like this is what happened when you'd see posts with hundreds / thousands of upvotes but had only 20-ish comments.

There needs to be a better way to solve this, but I'm unsure if we truly can solve this. Botnets are a problem across all social media (my undergrad thesis many years ago was detecting botnets on Reddit using Graph Neural Networks).

Fwiw, I have only one Lemmy account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

PSA: internet votes are based on a biased sample of users of that site and bots

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Federated actions are never truly private, including votes. While it's inevitable that some people will abuse the vote viewing function to harass people who downvoted them, public votes are useful to identify bot swarms manipulating discussions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if it's possible ...and not overly undesirable... to have your instance essentially put an import tax on other instances' votes. On the one hand, it's a dangerous direction for a free and equal internet; but on the other, it's a way of allowing access to dubious communities/instances, without giving them the power to overwhelm your users' feeds. Essentially, the user gets the content of the fediverse, primarily curated by the community of their own instance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if an instance could only allow votes by users who are part of instances that require email verification or some other verification method. I would imagine that would heavily help reduce vote manipulation on that particular instance.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get rid of votes. They suck.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, I want to downvote Nazis. Their opinions don't matter and should be suppressed.

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