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From https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/14phpbq/how_is_it_possible_that_roughly_50_of_americans/

Question above is pretty blunt but was doing a study for a college course and came across that stat. How is that possible? My high school sucked but I was well equipped even with that sub standard level of education for college. Obviously income is a thing but to think 1 out of 5 American adults is categorized as illiterate is…astounding. Now poor media literacy I get, but not this. Edit: this was from a department of education report from 2022. Just incase people are curious where that comes from. It does also specify as literate in English so maybe not as grim as I thought.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably a combination of flat out retards and recent immigrants for whom English is a second language.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Dear sir or madam,

You are a poopy face.

Warmest regards,

Dodgy_bagel

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you don't understand, start walking further away from the cities.

If you still don't understand, you're not done walking.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you think the problem is in the countryside, you've never been to New York City, and particularly the Bronx.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I grew up in New York city, and lived in the Bronx. Most of the people living there are literate in their mother tongue, less so in English. Is that what you were trying to say?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No. What I meant to say is that native English speakers in the Bronx have poor literacy rates.

https://www.norwoodnews.org/bronx-barriers-literacy-challenge/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Walk far enough into certain cities and you’ll see the same problem. It’s very closely tied to socio-economic class and a self perpetuating problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a slight gradient in literacy when looking at grade level but it's not really accurate with illiteracy. Seems cities can still have a considerable population that can't read.

https://nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates/StateEstimates.aspx

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Home schoolers/child abusers are everywhere.

Note: Not talking about legitimate, regular curriculum, "online school" for kids that can't attend normal school for whatever reason, (e.g. bullying, immunocompromised, etc). I'm referring to religious/cult garbage home schooling stuff that doesn't teach kids much of anything. Parents that put girls through these programs often end them at the fifth or sixth grade (because that's all they need to be "good wives").

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Unironically relevant

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a school psychologist who completes academic assessments when identifying students with learning disabilities, COVID skyrocketed these numbers. There's just not a lot of motivation for kids anymore. The future is here and is making our population slowly illiterate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The weird part is because a lot of people don't know what illiterate means...

They think these people can't read a fast food menu and words just look like chicken scratch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The definition of illiterate is "unable to read or write."

That pretty much sounds like what you just said. What do you think it means?

There isn't much nuance in the definition.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My girlfriend is a math teacher, the number of middle schoolers that can’t do basic multiplication before is surprisingly high. Yet the schools keep passing the kids. I remember learning multiplication as a 4th grader, if I hadn’t, I would’ve never passed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My niece from Florida came to live with me in December, just finished fifth grade and I was stunned that she doesn’t know her multiplication tables. My kids In Pennsylvania learned them in 3rd grade a few years ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does she understand the concept of multiplication though? That's ultimately the important part.

Learning rote things like multiplication tables seems kinda silly in a world where Google can just do the math for you. But the important thing is to be able to recognize when multiplication is useful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are still plenty of instances where doing arithmetic quickly in your head is useful (figuring out a tip at the cash register, for example) that memorizing it can have advantages.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

There are a lot of factors. The biggest one is they want people stupid. Stupid people are much easier to control.