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[–] [email protected] 73 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter what color your skin is, what your name is, or what your religion is. Air Canada will still treat you like shit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Until last year I'd never even heard of Air Canada, and now every time anybody mentions them all I hear is how terrible they are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As a Canadian, I'd just like to say Air Canada makes BA look like a luxury airline.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I remember when British Airways used to actually be posh. If you were flying with BA you'd made it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Well despite how far it's fallen, it's still up on Air Canada. Their business model is running flights as a cover for taking as much government funding as they can get.

When I was still living in Canada and my now wife was here in the UK, we discovered that booking with Air Canada was $100-$300 cheaper in the UK than in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The title is a bit clickbaity. He wasn’t stopped from boarding, he had to go through additional security checks. He claims he was told he had to go through the checks because his name was Mohammad… although that’s just him saying that.

I live in UK and I’d say around 50% of the flights I’ve taken to/from US I’ve been pulled aside for extra checks. Many times both on the way out and way back for a 100% check rate on that single trip.

If they did actually say it was due to his name being Mohammad then yeah that’s really bad, but this sounds like they’re making something of nothing. And at no point was he stopped from boarding.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They could have done it because of his name, but just not admitted it, or given no reason at all. Systemic racism is hard to prove, which means it can be remarkably persistent

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As someone who looks exactly like the people they should stop and who flew our of Boston after 9/11, I doubt it, I haven't had much more than a few shabby things and they go through all my electronics.

Best guess he rolled a 1 when it came to random searches and he reacted poorly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

he reacted poorly

He's an MP. Of course he acted poorly, none of them have any kind of grace under pressure. The way he complained about it in the House is rather telling, he was complaining mostly that it was done to him even though he was an MP not that it was done to him at all.

Who cares if it happens to the plebs but not the people like him.

That said he's only the MP for Bradford which a bit like being the MP for a nuclear waste dump, if the nuclear waste dump was a particularly unattractive one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the guy just sounds like an all around piece of shit.

Forget the name for a male Karen, is it clive?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No doubt Labour upper echelons will get involved and tell him not to cause an international incident thank you very much.

Generally Labour are ok, but this guy just seems to be an utter pillock with a chip on its shoulder.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (3 children)

FYI Mohammed is the third most popular name on the planet

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

And by no means unheard of in Canada

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait I thought it was the most popular first name?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  1. Maria 2. Nushi 3. Mohammed
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've literally never met anyone named Nushi lol. Where are they hiding?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nope, never met anyone with that name

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Sources say it’s of Hindi origin, but when I actually checked the statistics, it says there’s only 130 people in India with the name, while there’s ~56 million in China. So it seems to be mostly a Chinese name. Although further googling seems to indicate that’s the Chinese name for "Mrs."… so it might be that these sources are reading the title field as the first name, lol.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And Smith is the most common last name. So statistically speaking most people are called Maria Smith

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Only in the US. Internationally, the most common last name is Wang:

Wang is a patronymic (ancestral) name that means “king” in Mandarin, and it’s shared by more than 92 million people in China, making it the most popular last name in the world. The reason it’s so populous today may have a lot to do with the fact that many royal families changed their name to Wang when their kingdoms fell under the first Qin dynasty emperor. This was both to preserve their status and protect themselves from assassination.
Source

So Mohammed Wang is the most common name in the world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It's Wang. There are 92 million people with that surname in China, and a few more in other countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oh. Well I guess that means we need to try harder.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It was completely unacceptable for a ~~member of this house~~ human being to be treated in this way.

In absolutely no context does the name your parents gave you correlate to whether or not you're a terrorist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I think the problem is terrorist watch lists based only on first/last name combos. If you have a common name, particularly a male Middle Eastern name, then your name is likely shared by someone on a terrorism watch list.

The problem is that means these people are harassed every time they try to travel. We need at least one other piece of identifying information, not just first/last, so it's quick to exclude all the false positives.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

you heard it here first, if you ever hear of a dude called John you perform a citizens arrest, because that motherfucker did some shit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


An MP was stopped from boarding a flight to Canada with other members of parliament “because his name was Mohammad”, the Commons heard on Monday.

Mohammad Yasin, Labour’s MP for Bedford, was due to fly to Canada with other MPs from the Commons levelling up, housing and communities committee when he was delayed for questioning “for a considerable period” at airports in both countries last week.

Clive Betts, the chair of the committee, said the incident was unacceptable because of its “racist and Islamophobic nature”, and that he would write to the Canadian high commissioner in the UK.

Yasin then underwent similar questioning from officials on his return trip to the UK, MPs were told.

On return at Toronto airport on the way back, he was again challenged and got on his flight with the assistance of my consul general, who was very helpful.”

The deputy speaker Roger Gale replied: “I am sure that the whole house will share the dismay at the treatment of the member for Bedford.


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