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[–] [email protected] 78 points 10 months ago

What, he gets more cookies for violating it now?

FFS try not to get sucked into the clown vortex judge. You’re going to have to either admit your courtroom is a joke or throw the rapist in jail. Ok? Shields up.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I doubt his attorneys care all that much; the only attorneys still taking Trump on as a client are either those that have drunk the crazy Kool-Aid or those that want to be a talking head on one of MAGA networks…or both.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Out of curiosity I decided to look it up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/16/us/politics/trump-lawyers-fees.html

The last few attorneys have been paid ahead of time, and paid a lot of money.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

He's down to the lawyers with the smoothest of brains

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The lawyer in front of the Minnesota trial was young, but fantastic. He did an incredible job. They found one!

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ITT: No one read the article and thinks it means tRump can't go after the prosecutors, rather than the reality of tRump's attorneys now being gagged about talking about Engoron's staff

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This guy. If anyone of us filled that, we'd be locked so fast. But, no....this wad gets to carry on like some jackass. When will he be gone from our lives?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I have a feeling that we're going to have to wait for natural causes cause I have very little faith in actual justice being served.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Hopefully the stress of the trials accelerates this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I concur, if only for the reason that the US won’t dare set the precedent of sending a former president to prison.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is a difference though, putting an ex-president in jail would create such a political shitstorm that it just wouldn't be worth it.

Meanwhile, put any or all of us in jail, no one would care 😂.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

this is exactly what was being said years ago regarding the russian collusion investigation, but every time i see someone saying it on here it gets downvoted. reddit and lemmy are fake intellectual shitholes. the toxic optimism here is worse than stupidity.

putting an ex-president in jail would be complicated. the guy has state secrets and a lifetime secret service escort. im sure it could be done, but at most it wouldn't be a normal jail sentence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then the system inherently creates and needs different classes of people to function, meaning it cannot guarantee equality under the law and therefore is illegitimate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

you may be onto something here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

After sentencing sometime in April or maybe May after the Federal trial finishes for the obstruction charges. After that, the rest of the crew gets federal charges to piggyback Georgia indictments. He'll then die in prison shortly afterward and his insane followers will scream that he was murdered and commit terrorist acts for decades.

Oh, to answer your question, not until we're all long dead.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol like that's gonna stop him. He's a narcissist with no sense of authority.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would bet that if the gag order would be conditional on his release (I.e. he would have to be jailed until trial) he would find a lot of self control.

He is doing it, because he knows he can get away with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe I'm wrong, I don't think he would be able to even if the writing on the wall says "jail' and I think that's why the judge isn't doing that.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is an order to literally gag Trump out of the question?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The way he horks down McD meatfood™, I'm not sure it's possible to plug that suckhole forever. Prove me wrong? 🍿🙏🏼

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Some would say it’s a basket of deplorables.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Judge, this is a guy that has brushed off not one but two official impeachments while in office. Do you think this fat orange clown is going to care about gag orders? The only reason he gets by was, when in office, he had political cronies protecting him. Out of office, he's only got all of the dumbest MAGAtards that he proudly grifted to protect him.

This is a modern day OJ Simpson trial, without the murdering aspect. Just a clownshow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He might not care about gag orders, but he may care about prison sentences against him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even a guilty plea is going to go to appeal and he'll be safe from prison for the next 10 years. I'd be shocked if he survives that long.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You can't appeal a guilty plea. You can appeal the resulting sentence but you lawyer has to prove it was more than was allowed by the law.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The latest ep of the podcast What Roman Mars Can Learn About Con-Law was about the gag orders. Interesting stuff.