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I'm getting really tired of my food expiring before I make anything with it, and I want to quit buying anything that can't be frozen or last several months in the cupboard.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Beans and rice, and dry spices, countless varieties of beans and even rice will keep the dish from feeling stale and samey.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not specific answers for recipes, more of here's some fundamental ideas look online, so for example if I said flour, water, yeast, salt that is bread. Remove yeast you have crackers. Add baking soda you have soda crackers. Add olive oil, you have pizza dough exct.

Flour

Water

Beans

Oats

Nuts

Wheat Gluten

Oil

Dried fruit

Dehydrated vegetables

Sugar

Salt

Rice

Oats

Peanutbutter

Jelly

Tyme or other spices

Lentils

Corn meal

Baking soda

Vinegar

Baking powder

Yeast

Coffee

Tea

Dehydrated meat?

Now, I don't know your situation but if you need food and you are in a financial bind not just looking for stuff that doesn't expire. Check out your local food bank/pantry. There's no shame in that.

Personally I do a lot of canning and foraging for things. So food storage is pretty important. I don't buy a lot of groceries. There are a lot of options for long lasting food, but too many to share.

I definitely would look up homesteading and some recipes from that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Ah, I'm not doing this because of money or anything. I'm just getting frustrated whenever I buy an onion for a recipe, and it goes squishy before I can actually cook the thing. If I can get rid of all the stuff like that from my diet, then I'll be happy.

Thanks for the homesteading suggestion, though. I'll keep that in mind when I'm searching for recipes online. That community might also have some nice tips for how to live like this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Canned milk, jarred tomato sauce or pesto, pasta, frozen vegetables, frozen shrimp or chicken. Cheese lasts a while and you can put it in the freezer if you don't care about texture (such as for cheese sauce). Whole wheat pasta is a while grain and decently healthy and significantly more filling than white pasta. You can make white sauce or mac and cheese with the canned milk.

Most meat can be frozen when packaged without fair (look for tubes instead of flat packages). Flash frozen vegetables are pretty good. You can also portion and package meats for the freezer yourself, it just takes a while and you may want to get a vacuum sealer.

Dry whole grains and dry beans or legumes are the good basis for vegetarian diets, and together will make a whole protein. Just don't forget B12 or also eat meat. Both whole grains and legumes go bad after about a year on the shelf but will last much longer in the fridge or freezer (depending on how bulk you are buying). Oils will also go rancid eventually, especially olive oil or sesame, I keep those in the fridge too but they will last a few years like that.

I want to note that non-whole grains last longer, such as white rice or white flour, due to the oils and proteins (and most of the nutrients) removed.

Soups and stews can be made in advance, portioned for a few meals and frozen. You can use meat, beans, canned tomato for chili. Lentil soup doesn't always need much else aside from stock and seasoning.

If you make or buy fresh bread, you can let it completely cool, then slice it, then put it in as air tight a bag as you can and freeze it. This is great for toast but not as great for sandwiches. You can do the same with bagels, defrosting them in the microwave until still cold and then put them in the toaster. Frozen bagels make for decent sandwiches, maybe because they are already supposed to be chewy.

A soup portion with a side of grain or bread is pretty filling and delicious.

You can probably freeze Burger buns and treat them as I've described bagels, using them for burgers. Pickles are jarred and last a long time in the fridge.

"American cheese" lasts a very long time in the fridge. Unwashed eggs lasts about a month out of the fridge and a few months in the fridge. Use some frozen sausage for breakfast sandwiches.

Frozen vegetables usually have a slightly cooked texture, so cooking them is better. Roasted broccoli or cauliflower from frozen is pretty good. Served with a side of beans and rice with a baked chicken breast from frozen and that's a big delicious healthy meal. Don't forget to season and maybe use hot sauce.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Thank you! That's so much useful info! I'm definitely saving this comment for later.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Chickpea curry is made entirely with pantry items and is very delicious. You can throw in non-pantry items if you have them but they are not necessary

https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/food-cooking/recipes/a57629/chickpea-curry/

Spam musubi is a popular snack in Hawaii that's also entirely pantry food. I love spam but not everyone does; if you want pantry meals though chances are you would be okay with it.

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/49785/spam-musubi/

Obviously canned soups are a good pantry meal source, no special recipe there

Flaked ham or tuna cans with Mayo & relish (or chopped celery if you have them) are delicious to eat on any type of crackers

https://www.food.com/recipe/simple-ham-spread-397918

That's what I can think of for now haha

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Those are some great suggestions, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Vegetarian chili - canned or dry beans and lentils, tomato sauce, canned veggies if you want. It's versatile enough that you can make it differently every time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Since you're open to frozen, you can cook almost everything. Applebees entire menu almost starts frozen.

There's relatively few things in the culinary world that cannot be frozen. It's like, a really small list. Like, you're not really supposed to freeze bread, it does change it a little. But you can. And you won't notice the difference in french toast or a panini.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It seems pretty limiting from my perspective. Can't use milk or eggs or cheese, and most dipps don't freeze either. Can't use lettuce, most vegetables and fruit become tasteless as soon as their frozen, and bread can only be frozen once or twice before it becomes inedible, and it takes two full days to thaw each time.

Most of my diet is noodles of various kinds, soups, and frozen meals.

What would you suggest? Applebee's doesn't operate in my area, and I've never been to one. What kinds of food would work?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Is this the US we're talking about? And what kinds of foods do you like?

You're right that there is a list of things that cannot be frozen, ingredient-wise. But when you compare the size of the list of things that can be frozen vs cannot be, you will find the "can be" list is many, many times larger. While clearly you will still need some non-frozen things, milk and lettuce are excellent examples, these are the exceptions, not the rule.

You can cook almost everything. If its a food dish (just about), you can make it from 98% non-perishables. So, we're gonna have to narrow it down here unless you just want me to start listing the worlds foods one by one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I live in Saskatchewan, Canada. I don't need specifics, though it's nice when they are given. I am mostly looking for ideas on what kinds of food would work.

I get what you mean, though. There's certainly a lot of options, and a recipe doesn't do me much good if it uses ingredients that I can't get.

I guess, "what's your favorite recipes that fit this theme?" Might have been a better question. I'm just frustrated that every recipe I find online has things like "fresh garlic" or "whole onion" or even worse "lemon zest" (what do you do with the rest of the lemon? There's not exactly many recipes that use it) so I have to find another that doesn't have anything "fresh" in it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Personally, I'd go ahead and buy fresh stuff, in fair quantities, and cook it up into finished dishes. Then throw these into some reusable containers for freezing and later reheating. You can do this really well with things like chili, stews, soups, stuff like that. Can cube up fruit and then freeze the cubes for smoothies, and honestly I'd just go ahead and buy pre-frozen vegetables and berries and stuff. That all tends to be fairly decent, though it varies. Uses are whatever you want, they're all versatile. Breakfast omelette, throwing some into a soup you're getting tired of, quick roast to eat as a side, whatever.

And yeah, I feel your pain. Frankly, I usually end up squeezing the lemon into some water, just to not waste it. That's the best I have for that one. lol

Some waste is unavoidable sometimes, onions are a good example. You kinda need em, but if you don't use them periodically they definitely go bad and generate clouds of fruit flies. My best advice for that is advance meal planning, where you're buying for specific dishes you have planned in the next few weeks. Really, this entire approach boils down to advance meal planning, now that I think about it...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Really? I feel like bread keeps pretty well in the freezer!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It comes out stale, but if you toast it it;s fine. Even just reheating it works somewhat

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

The only thing I've encountered that I'll never freeze again is cream cheese.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They sell frozen bread at Walmart (at least garlic bread)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Boil β€˜em, ~~mash~~bake β€˜em, stick β€˜em in a stew…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

1/2 cup rice

1 cup water

1-2 cups misc frozen veg and frozen cooked meat (e.g. sandwich ham)

stock cube and/or spices

Stick the water and frozen stuff in a pan and bring to the boil, stick the rice in and bring back to the boil with the lid on, boil for one minuite and turn the hob off/take off the heat and don't move the lid. Don't touch it for fifteen minuites. Fluff and serve

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can replace the rice with 1 cup of couscous, but you need more spices as it's rather bland otherwise

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Thankfully most spices are shelf stable so as long as you find some spices you like you're also good for years. I personally couldn't live without cumin or garlic powder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That sounds great! Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Casseroles are what you want for the long shelf life plan. Most are ground meat and canned/frozen vegetables/soup. Most also freeze well, so you could pre make and reheat them when you want them, especially if you don't want to spend a week eating the same casserole. You can get a bit more variety than just pasta and sauce or Mac and cheese this way.

Most every ingredient in bread (cake, cookies, pancakes, etc) can be stored long term if you want to just make bread when you need it, but that is a lot of effort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I hadn't thought of that, but that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Chilli con carne:

  • chuck frozen mince in a pot with some oil & spices
  • chuck in a tin of chopped tomatos
  • chuck in some frozen veg
  • chuck in some tomato puree
  • chuck in more spices
  • simmer for like 15-20 minutes
  • eat (with tortilla chips / rice / cheese / etc)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

wouldn't that be chili sin carne?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That sounds great! I'll definitely try that. Thanks for the suggestion!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Basically anything but make it with frozen vegetables, and vacuum seal your meat and put it in the freezer?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Both pasta and many pasta sauces last a very long time without refrigeration (although the latter only if you don't take it out of the jar).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yah, pasta is such a great dish. It lasts forever and you can use it in so many ways. Most of my diet is just variations on the typical "pasta with sauce" formula.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

An easy way to add some vitamins and fiber, buy a bag of frozen broccoli cuts or other cut veggies and throw some in the boiling water when your pasta is almost done. When they froze it they cooked it a little, so you're really just heating it up while your pasta finishes cooking. Use a rubber band or something to close the bag if you're only using part of it. You can do this with frozen peas, cauliflower, green beans, or other veggies, but not soybeans/edamame! They have to be cooked separately to be sure they're fully cooked, or they can make you sick.

Unlike canned, frozen vegetables retain the nutrients of fresh. And you're not opening the drawer to find they've gone moldy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That sounds interesting. What are some good pasta dishes that go with veggies? I'm just imagining putting broccoli in my Kraft Dinner water and laughing.

I guess that one garlic recipe from Italy might work. It would pare nicely with some of the more savoy vegetables like carrots and sweet potatoes. The extra vitamins and flavor in the noodles would certainly be nice, and I'd get a nice side dish, too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

(although the latter only if you don’t take it out of the jar).

I mean that is true for most (all?) non-perishable food. If you treat it in the wrong way you can make it spoil faster. Otherwise it probably wouldn't be digestible at all.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You can preserve meats through the ancient method of salting here's an excellent video about how to do it

Get a dehydrator and some mason jars and look up all the stuff you can dehydrate.

In general seeds, nuts, dried friuits like raisins, and properly stored grains will last a VERY long time

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

If you're willing to spend a weekend making, ramen stock freezes very well in pieces.

The stock goes into the plastic soup containers, the meat can be bagged and frozen, many veggies work well frozen (thinking corn), I buy seaweed chips for the nori, the noodles are also bought frozen, and all that's left is an egg to prepare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I agree with beans & rice, that is the framework for a million great meals.

Whole canned tomatoes are very helpful to have around. Also canned coconut cream and the little cans of curry paste.

Triscuits crackers and nuts are good things to have on hand if you need snacks with calories.

If you are willing to buy lemons, oils, spices, and onions and garlic, you will be able to have a very vibrant and delicious healthy diet with canned or dried beans, canned tuna and sardines, canned tomatoes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

My go to is https://www.budgetbytes.com/poor-mans-burrito-bowls/ It's much better with cheese and green onions, but still damn good with just the canned beans, rice, and salsa.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Honey with water (just make sure you change the packaging after 5 years before the plastic starts to degrade)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

caramelized onions

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Can't you shop less at the time ?

Basically anything canned or dry would last for long. Stuff like pasta or dry vegetable would last for long. Canned vegetable also (but some taste pretty bad), Wine and beer also last for a while. (Now I can recommend a recipe of pasta with canned mushroom and a white wine sauce, should almost be good)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Here's one that's lazy, pretty much foolproof, and uses all canned food from the pantry. (If you know what it's called, good for you.)

  1. Add oil to stockpot, put in anchovies, dried red pepper, and garlic, fry it up a little bit until it smells good.
  2. Add in a can of crushed tomatoes, drained olives, and caper. Boil, then simmer.
  3. Cook some spaghetti to al dente(approximately 6-7 minute, SALT THE WATER, DON'T OIL THE WATER)
  4. Drain the pasta and mix into sauce, add olive oil and Parmesan to taste, serve.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lentil soup. The only fresh ingredient is the greens (and you can freeze them to use later). The finished soup can be frozen.

2 cups black beluga lentils (or green French lentils), picked over and rinsed
1 tablespoon extra virgin olive oil
1 large onion, chopped
1 teaspoon fine-grain sea salt
1 28- ounce can crushed tomatoes
2 cups water
3 cups of a big leafy green (chard, kale, etc), rinsed well, deveined, finely chopped

  1. Boil the lentils for 20 minutes, drain and set aside.
  2. Saute the onion until soft
  3. Add everything else except for the greens; bring to a simmer
  4. Stir in the greens and cook for another couple of minutes
  5. Adjust seasoning
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Looks interesting! Thanks for the suggestion, I'll save the comment so I can try it out someday.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Vegetarian chili. Chick peas, various beans, tomatoes, and a jar of spaghetti sauce. Get some frozen precut onions and sweet corn, or whatever you're into. Good standby meal, takes 20 minutes to put everything together and it tastes even better left over.

Season with garlic powder, onion powder, cumin, and chili powder. Add a little brown sugar (or white) as well to cut the acidity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

We've been making salads lately out of canned fish and canned beans to use them up! Usually just add some onion and dried parsley 😊

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Rice, beans (canned or dried - dried lasts "forever" basically), canned or tinned meats or dried meats. Most hot sauces (Louisiana). Pasta. Pasta with 'tinned' sauces. etc.

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