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[–] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago

Just another day where guns mean more than human lives.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

(cheerful teacher voice) "Remember, kids! Training for this life-or-death situation is our part in ensuring that some old fart gets to keep his private arsenal!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Straight out of Battle Royale

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Police report the shooter is now dead.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Police used the term "found dead" so likely murder-suicide.

Source

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Probably shot by another mass shooter /s

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The only thing that can stop a mass shooter with a gun is an infinite regress of additional mass shooters.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Cascading "active shooter incidents" rolling across America, one beginning where the last one ended. A ~~living~~ monument to our love of freedom and firearms.

That's enough internet for me today..

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Jesus christ

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Someone call PlayerUnkown!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Uno reverse card

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Someone tell them the record's been broken already

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

In Las Vegas too

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (16 children)

The article says:

"RUN-HIDE-FIGHT."

Are they seriously saying that to students?? What does that mean, when faced with an armed gunman?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (3 children)

When faced with any sort of violence, those are your best options, in order.

RUN, if you can.

HIDE, if you can.

FIGHT, if you have to.

Guns aren't magic aim-botted kill machines. Plus, these assholes are scared and shaking, not exactly Navy SEALs. So yeah, running is indeed an option, especially if you jack rabbit. Engaging a moving target is far harder than punching holes in paper.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Advice from a military veteran, you can run in a straight line to safety and be fine. Real life guns are not as accurate at video game guns. Ran as fast to safety as you can.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You don’t have to be faster than the bullet, you just have to be faster than your friends.

So don’t hang out with the track team. Hang out with the AV Club.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My friends think I'm so generous with the lavish feasts all the time. Little do they know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Rule #1: Cardio.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A moving target drops your chances of being hit by 90%.

1 in 10 shots hit a moving target, in general.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

So that's why the cops don't like it when we run

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to see the data under the hood on that.

Does that apply to military scenarios? Does it distinguish indoors vs outdoors? Pistol vs. Rifle vs. Magazine size?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

As someone who is not afraid of guns and owns and uses guns a moving target is just literally harder to hit.

Analogy would be a car it's easier to drive a car while stationary it's hard to drive a car on the freeway with other moving cars.

"According to the California Highway Patrol (CHP), there were 216,366 traffic accidents in the state in 2022, which resulted in 3,854 fatalities and 165,978 injuries"

And people in cars are not trying to hurt anyone. 🤣

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Run if you can, hide if you can, fight if you have to. Essentially, you're on your own, we can't do anything to help you or stop gun violence.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yup, it's pretty common training in America these days.

First, try to run. Just get out via whichever exit is in the opposite direction of the gunshots. But running isn't always an option. Maybe there are multiple shooters, or you're in an area without a second exit. Pretty common in schools, where each classroom only has one door. So you fall back to the second option:

Hide. Fortify your position if possible. Lock and barricade doors, shut off lights, and find somewhere to hide. You want to make yourself an unattractive target, because mass shooters are looking for easy targets. They want to hit as many people as possible, so they aren't going to waste time searching potentially empty rooms and forcing their way past furniture barricades for what could turn out to be only one or two people. You don't even unlock the door for the police, because it could be a shooter in disguise. If the cops are there, they'll have a master key for the building and will be able to unlock it themselves. But if the shooter does manage to get into your hiding area, that's when you fall back to option three:

Fight. While hiding and barricading, you're also looking for improvised weapons. A broken chair leg, a flagpole with a point on the end to use as a spear, a fire extinguisher to blind and bludgeon, etc... You quietly plan with the others in your hiding area, because you all need to be on the same page: If the shooter is determined to get into your room, every single person in that room needs to be prepared to kill the shooter. It's kill or be killed. Everyone needs to swarm the shooter, don't give them a chance to shoot you one at a time. If five people fight, one or two people may get shot before the shooter is killed. If everyone just freezes, the shooter will kill all five of you. So you all hit the shooter hard, you hit them fast, and you don't stop until they're completely incapacitated.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Interestingly that's the name of a film about...a mass shooter at a school

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I got that training when I was a university student a while back. Officer Friendly came and showed us a video about it in the seminar room.

When you hear gunshots, you're supposed to run away (if it seems safe), or hide somewhere and barricade yourself in (if you can't run), or try to surprise and fight off the gunman (if you think your hiding spot is about to be discovered).

I asked if I should run in a straight line or in a zigzag pattern or something. The officer said it's best to run for cover. I asked what to do if there was no cover. I forget what the advice for that situation was. I think the officer said people's aim sometimes isn't that great.

I guess it's better than freezing and waiting to die.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Opps, I just posted something similar. Most gunman don't aim, at all, they just point in the general direction so speed is your friend. Even in combat we noticed few ever properly aim, breathe, and take the time to lead a target. Run like hell and you'll be okay. Standing still or moving slow increase you odds of being hit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Sounds like the same training they give hospital employees.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Apparently there may be a 2nd shooter. Another individual with a handgun and banana clip was reported. If it's a "good guy with a gun", he better watch out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I'm Pro Life and INCREDIBLY happy this man got to exercise his Constitutional Rights! Now lets start forcing kids into Christianity by force!

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