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[–] [email protected] 187 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Orange calls to extort foreign nation in exchange for election dirt on opponent: Republicans - “We don’t see noting but a perfect phone call”

Joe Biden breaths: Republicans - “ImPEeEEeeEEEECh!!!!!!!!”

[–] [email protected] 74 points 9 months ago (4 children)

To be fair they can’t complain about Biden being black or wearing a tan suit…

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago

It would be fucking hilarious if he gets a subpoena to testify and shows up in a tan suit. Maybe bring a bottle of Dijon mustard just for good measure. I would pay good money to see that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or Dijon mustard on his hotdog

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[–] [email protected] 129 points 9 months ago (3 children)

We have to have some form of recourse for this wasteful bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 120 points 9 months ago (5 children)

That would be voting but unfortunately the republican base doesn’t read big words or lacks reading comprehension skills so this will continue.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I guess nobody planned for a population that can't think. "What if future leaders defund education to a point the populace is vulnerable? What if we extend this two or three more generations and the leaders themselves are vulnerable to foreign propaganda?"

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As with everything that's wrong with the country, thank you president Reagan.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"I am Emperor Ronald Reagan
Born again, with fascist cravings
Still, you made me president

Human rights will soon go 'way
I am now your Shah today
Now I command all of you
Now you're gonna pray in school
And I'll make sure they're Christian too"

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So, a significant chunk of the founders were very skeptical of democracy and saw the risks of demagoguery. Their answer unfortunately tended to be to let the rich run things, because rich people (like themselves) would be more likely to be public minded and not selfish. That’s also, one might say, why the president has as much power as is allocated to that office independent of the legislature - initially, some wanted a king - and why the senate has more power than the house, and senators were not originally determined by popular election. The 17th amendment was passed in 1913.

They made a few other mistakes, too. Although some people (notably including Washington) saw the threat of political parties (which might in fact be an inevitable aspect of democracy), they also thought that the self interest of office holders would be to their office - president vs house vs senate vs judiciary, federal vs state governments - and did not foresee that people would instead find their self interest in their party, which would coordinate across all of those boundaries.

They also carried the enlightenment ideal of people being rational self interested actors who could deliberate and put aside self interest for the good of the country. Adam Smith himself said as much.

It comes down to selfishness versus tribalism versus what David Singer calls the expanding circle of inclusion (family, tribe, city, nation, humanity, ecosystem).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The founding fathers never conceived the complete lack of morals and character from a majority of the leaders of our country. I'm pretty sure they planned on a revolution long before we got to this point.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Apparently none of them studied Rome. As long as the average member of the populace has some form of comfort you can play orchestra pieces while burning the capital.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They love this spiteful, kangaroo court bullshit, plus they’re convinced of the conspiracy theories because they have to believe that everyone is as shitty as they are in order to feel better about themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In a sane world, this would cost them elections. Unfortunately, they have their own media sphere, so half the voting pool eats this shit up.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Can’t wait to see all the evidence /s

[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 months ago

You just did!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

"Because I said so"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hunter's dong was already entered into the Congressional record, was it not? QED, impeach.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Impeach him for what? Well, that's TBD, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No need for reason or evidence or anything. Hell, we don't even need a charge with any meat on it. None of that matters.

All we care about is normalizing Presidential impeachments. That way we get to play whataboutism endlessly.

Started with Clinton. Most of us thought it was all rather ridiculous, but they tried anyway. Here we are.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

Exactly. Ideally, they would have wanted to have impeached Biden 3 times. This way, Trump could have said that he wasn't impeached nearly as much as Biden.

They failed at that, but Plan B is to impeach him once regardless of any evidence or any charges. Then, Trump can claim that impeachment is just a normal thing that opposing parties do and that it means nothing.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

Joe Biden must be held accountable for Donald Trump's crimes

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Apparently impeach him for being Trump’s opponent.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Y'know, like authoritarians. They do authoritarian things. Because they want a dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Well, clearly he committed a very heinous act. He defeated Trump in the 2020 election. That's not allowed and means he needs to be removed ASAP!

In unrelated news, watch your step. I seem to have spilled a lot of sarcasm over here.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

In their narrative Trump was impeached for "nothing" so they have to do the same to Biden.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter, it's precedent that empowers them.

It's only a matter of time before Republican successfully impeach a democratic president simply for winning the vote. All it takes it them holding enough seats in the house and the Senate.

What then?

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if they’re going to pull Ben Ghazi out of retirement for this clown show.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago

You mean the Republicans' favourite band, Ben Ghazi and the Buttery Males?

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They can’t seriously be trying to impeach over a families foreign assets and running Trump as their candidate at the same fucking time.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago (4 children)

They can because the people who vote for them aren't smart enough and are too narcissistic to grasp cognitive dissonance.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago

Jesus these guys are clowns. The people that vote for them are just... Sad.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Marc Elias “there are no house GOP moderates. There are proud MAGA and scared MAGA.”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

And "maga" is just recycled teabagger, which predates donnie diapers. These guys have been awful for a long time.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago

Wasting taxpayer money on a pointless revenge plot. Typical wasteful conservative nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Well the US really is on a death spiral.

Your country is fucked. Even Brazil handled their corruption better.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago

Now all they need is a piece of actual evidence. So far they came up empty-handed.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So what is the plan exactly?? Remove Joe Biden and then what? They really think they would be able to beat Kamala Harris AND per pick for VP?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They don't have the numbers in the Senate to do that anyway, it's just childish revenge. That and they want to say "Democrats want to vote for impeached president Biden. They're hypocritical communists!" during the election

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Don't forget all the wasted time that could be used for actual legislation.

Instead we waste taxpayer money for an election flyer bullet point.

Fiscal responsibility my cock.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pfft. Only 1 impeachment?! Glorious Leader Trump had 2 impeachments by his second election!

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

This is entirely about removing Trump's biggest weakness, which his impeachments.

This is a nihilistic strategy, identifying words that can harm and systematically destroying the meaning those words. Trump was rightfully impeached for cause, but if Biden can just as easily be impeached with no cause, an impeachment ceases to be an objective badge of shame.

Just like Trump didn't originate "fake news." It was a term used specifically to describe Trump's lying, and Trump didn't fight it, just destroyed its meaning.

They are literally removing our ability to communicate their wrongdoing.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

To quote NOFX's song The Idiots Are Taking Over

There's no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated

Political scientists get the same one vote as some Arkansas inbred

Majority rule don't work in mental institutions

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, we don't even have majority rule. We have a system skewed to give Republicans more power than their numbers. The House radically over-represents the cons and their extreme right wing agenda. The EC puts in Republicans that the majority did not want.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Joe Biden should declare Jonson's Speakership as a donation to his reelection campaign. Two shutdown fights and a nakedly frivolous impeachment, and that's just January and February of the election year.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

The weak and creepy weirdo Mike Johnson desperately needed some red meat for the unruly bunch he's the supposed "leader" of.

They were getting GRRRR MAD at him for working with Democrats (insert gasping and pearl-clutching here, as the cons view working with Democrats on something even as basic as keeping the government running as simply beyond the pale and worthy of excommunication. Only a total "RINO" and apostate like Liz Cheney would do such a thing!).

So that's probably why we are going to have this bullshit "investigation".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


House Republicans voted Wednesday to formalize an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden as their investigation reaches a critical juncture and right-wing pressure grows.

The argument from Republican proponents of the effort, according to multiple GOP lawmakers and aides, is that a floor vote will strengthen their legal standing against the White House and fortify their subpoenas to secure key witness testimony.

Potentially bolstering the GOP inquiry: Last week’s tax indictment against Hunter Biden, which overlapped with many of the alleged financial imports and overseas business deals that Republicans have intensely scrutinized with their own probes.

Since McCarthy launched the inquiry in September, the trio of committees leading the investigation have interviewed various officials from the Justice Department and Internal Revenue Service while also obtaining a mountain of documents and new bank records, including from Biden family members.

Even as Republicans issue new subpoenas and schedule more depositions, including with the president’s brother and son, they still have not uncovered credible evidence that backs up their loftiest claims against Biden.

There has only been one hearing related to the inquiry since its launch, where the expert witnesses called by Republicans acknowledged GOP investigators hadn’t yet presented enough evidence to prove the accusations they were leveling.


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