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[–] [email protected] 203 points 9 months ago (5 children)

When you insist on implementing your own email address validation...

[–] [email protected] 101 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I have my own domain that uses a specific 2-letter ccTLD - it's a short domain variation of my surname (think "goo.gl" for Google). I've been using it for years, for my email.

Over those years, I have discovered an astonishing number of fuckheaded organisations whose systems insist I should have an email address with a "traditional" TLD at the end.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A few years back I bought a .family domain for my wife and I to have emails at ourlastname.family That lasted a week because almost every online service wouldn’t accept it. Now we have a .org

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Doesn't surprise me one bit. I've noticed that a lot of websites will only accept .com and a few will only accept email addresses from popular providers (Gmail, Hotmail, outlook, etc.)

My guess is that it's trying to reduce spam and fake account generation.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

My guess is that it's trying to reduce spam and fake account generation.

Thus preventing the growth of any small providers and further entrenching Microsoft, Google, Apple, and a handful of others as the only "viable" options.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only useful email validation is "can I get an MX from that" and "does it understand what I'm saying in that SMTP". Anything else is someone that have too much free time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's easier to Google "email regex [language]" and copy the first result from stack overflow.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Definitely a timesaver. Much faster to get incorrect email validation that way then to try building it yourself.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Skip the building step and go straight to pulling your hair out over why it’s not working! Efficiency!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I know (hope) you're being facetious, because the objectively best way to do email validation is to send a fuckin email to the provided address.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

I've encountered this because my domain has a hyphen in it. Very irritating.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not aware of any correct email validations. I'm still looking for something accepting a space in the localpart.

Also a surprising number of sites mess with the casing of the localpart. Don't do that - many mailservers do accept arbitrary case, but not all. [email protected] and [email protected] are two different mail addresses, which may point to the same mailbox if you are lucky.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The only correct regex for email is: .+@.+

So long as the address has a local part, the at sign, and a hostname, it's a valid email address.

Whether it goes somewhere is the tricky part.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry, this is not a correct regex for an email address.

Sending using mail on a local unix system? You only need the local part.

STOP VALIDATING NAMES AND EMAIL ADDRESSES. Send a verification email. Full stop. Don't do anything else. You really want to do this anyway, because it's a defense against bots.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

*Gasp* the registration is coming from inside the colo!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

When you insist on implementing your own ~~email address validation~~ regex string...

[–] [email protected] 168 points 9 months ago (1 children)

but they are now ignoring me.

Hmm. Did you try giving them your email address?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, now my twitter dms are stuck in an infinite loop

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gimme your email address and I'll see what I can do

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Chipotle is telling you they don’t want your money

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago

I would sure like the free stuff they promised me after my past purchases

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You're talking to a bot that has a crappy parser and doesn't understand what a subdomain is.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This is why you never attempt to validate an email address beyond requiring an @ followed by a period, and send a verification email

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Technically you don't need a period for a valid address. "a@a" is a valid email address.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Not a lot of people sending emails using hostnames nowadays though.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

DON'T TELL ME HOW TO ELECTRONIC MY MAIL

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I’ve noticed that a lot of sites are starting to disallow aliasing with email addresses. So annoying.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Which is blatant incompetence considering there is a very straightforward RFC covering domain names.

https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1035.txt

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The best way to validate an email address is to sent it an email validation link.

Anything outside of that is a waste of effort.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago

Have you tried giving them your email address?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pepper is making you salty

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

enshitification of everything intensifies

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not enshittification. Just the usual shitty customer service experience.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why are you keeping track of the age of your Chipotle account?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Because those points add up, playa.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Six year old.. Chipotle account? 🤣

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I know it sounds weird but I needed a concise way to say that I know the account works fine and has for a long time.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Pepper, can you transfer me to Tortilla?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Chipotle being a shit company? I'm shocked!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Somebody made a shitty regex.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Probably, from what I can see the address in question isn't really that exotic. but an email regex that validates 100% correctly is near impossible. And then you still don't know if the email address actually exists.

I'd just take the user at their word and send an email with an activation link to the address that was supplied. If the address is invalid, the mail won't get delivered. No harm done.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I have enough 7-11 points to buy out several franchise locations, but I can't use them.

I made the account with Facebook, then later deleted Facebook. Since I don't have a Facebook to log in to the app to redeem points, I can't redeem them at all.

I contacted corporate about this, and they say there's nothing I can do.

The fun part is that my still valid email was connected to the now defunct Facebook, so I can't use my email either. Not even to make a new account.

Same deal with my phone number.

So if I ever want a free shitty taquito, I basically need an entirely new Identity.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

A lot of oauth2 implementations don't really seem to have a mechanism to change providers or switch to email alone. It's going to be fun when one of the big providers like Facebook or Google decide they don't want to do oauth2 any more and a bunch of their users are suddenly locked out of millions of third party websites.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Alot of email verifications, very recently, are now having trouble with verifications in the domain name especially if it has a second period like yours.

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