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I really wish people would stop thinking like this, because it isn't fucking true. Even as a joke, it's not funny. The people suffering and dying are not the anti-vax dipshits. It's the infants, the sickly, the elderly who are suffering and dying. It's the random mother of five who happens to catch a particularly virulent strain of something that mutated in the lungs of a nutjob relative. Anti-vaxxers simply don't die quickly or frequently enough to wipe themselves out, and most will claim their survival as evidence that they were right because they are, all of them, without exception, the stupidest and most dangerous humans to ever live.

If an antivaxxer spreads covid to my immunocompromised friend, is Darwin gonna know to spare my friend or are they going to be an unfortunate statistic?

Ah yes, the eugenicists, the other wilfully ignorant evil the vaccine "debate" brings out..
You are literally no better than anti-vaxxers.

Are you using "experts have learned new things and do not posses inherent omnipotence" as a reason not to trust experts?

No. Your rights end where other's rights begin. You and your kids don't have the right to get other kids, especially immunocompromised kids who can't get vaccinated, sick because of your bad choices.

This is not a freedom issue, this is a public health issue. Allowing unvaccinated kids (who are able to be vaccinated) into a school is risking others' lives. You do not have the right to do that as a parent any more than Typhoid Mary had the right to keep spreading typhoid fever.

Fuck that noise. Failing to vaccinate your kids puts my kids at risk. You have no right to endager the lives of people around you.

But you don't have a right for your child to endanger someone else's child. Obviously there is a blurry line there e.g., if my kid has a PB&J he might endanger the welfare of a child with nut allergies. Are we going to ban nuts? Probably not, because not enough kids can get sick from them to warrant that kind of action.

Everyone's kids can get measles. Or covid. Or polio. Or -insert preventable disease here-

Therefore everyone's kids should get vaccinated. I get that our government does shady shit sometimes, but people without any scientific background take that and then believe that vaccines are some huge conspiracy.

It's not.

Science proves they work and do not harm you belong a tiny margin of fringe cases where people have severe side effects (like less than 0.1% of ppl).

That's a fine rationalization for private citizens in their private homes.

The issue here is that these children are being sent to public schools and they're interacting with other children. Sure, those children are likely vaccinated, but what about the ones who are immunocomprimised? what about the elderly grandmother picking her grandkid up from school one day? What about the ones that just get unlucky, and the vaccine isn't enough to protect them?

We let stupid people do a lot in modern society without consequence. Murder shouldn't be added to that list. If parents don't want to vacc their kids for stupid reasons, they should face the consequence of homeschooling them. If they want to be able to take part in polite society and send their anklebiter to public schools, then they must abide by the ground rules that are in place to keep everyone's kid's safe.

If they're going to public school, their decision affects all the other students. They don't get to choose.