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[–] [email protected] 131 points 8 months ago (12 children)

If grandpa's still voting R, he's voting for the fascists of the 21st century.

If you want to know what you would've done living in Germany in the 1930's...

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Plenty of people who go to the shooting range vote D

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Hence the inclusion of the word "if ".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Hell yeah. Give me that big phat D.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I think people would be surprised how many liberal gun owners are out there (including myself). The difference is we don't worship guns like the lunatics on the right.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 107 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Grandpa won't need to go to Germany for round 3 with the NAZIs. They are right around the corner wearing MAGA hats.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Generous to presume that Grandpa isn't one of them.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Germany will go to the US to fight Nazism, sounds about right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately not that big of a twist. It wasn't until wartime that the US fully turned its back on the Nazis, they had an uncomfortably huge amount of support in America.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Yep, was thinking he checks the box next to the (R) on the ballot. Older,boomer generation, into guns pushes the odds strongly in that direction.

E: typo

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

My father died a few months before the 2016 election, but he was a grandpa in his 80s and he practically died a socialist. He would have been one of the loudest anti-Trump voices you had ever heard had he been aware enough through his dementia to be politically active. I was able to tell him that a social democrat was running for president before the dementia got too far gone and I think he was able to take it in. I'm glad he didn't get to find out that Bernie lost.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago

Those MAGA folks might be the more immediate threat.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Well, Fascism is on the rise in Germany (and pretty much everywhere else).... Makes me incredibly sad and frustrated to see what's currently happening

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's as if people have learned absolutely nothing from the past; not even the Germans. It's enough to make you cry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is a set of grievances and motivations the bigots have that are not being addressed.

And no one has come up with an effective counter strategy to the fascist manipulation playbook yet.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago

Plot twist: he is German.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

Based antifascist grandpa

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

ITT: weirdly a lot of people assuming that Grandpa votes Republican based on nothing besides his age and love of guns

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Dude looks and acts exactly like my great grandfather who served in the navy kn WWII. He was a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat and hated Republicans until he died in 2017.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"In case they want round three, so we can waltz in years late and claim victory, then spend decades destabilising the planet for profit oooooeeeeeee"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

This kind of "America did nothing in WW2" rhetoric is almost as r-word'ed as "America soloed WW2." You're an idiot if you think America was "years late" and didn't play a huge role in the European front. Not even to address the Pacific Theatre.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Even prior to direct military entry, the US was providing mass amounts of aid to fight the Axis. We were giving the UK destroyers, arms, and ammunition immediately after the Nazi invasion of Poland, gave billions to China to help fight the Japanese invasion, and started arming the Soviet Union under the Lend-Lease as soon as Germany invaded them.

We also deployed to Iceland to take over the Brits’ post there so they could free up troops to the mainland.

Even ignoring the European front, which is stupid, the US was instrumental in the African front and neutralizing Italy.

But nah, the US kicking ass and stacking bodies on 3 different fronts wasn’t important to winning the war. Nope.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Likewise (related to aid) churning out liberty ships at the rate of 3 ships every other day to counter lost cargo ships was totally superfluous and not at all crucial for England.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Just say retarded, man.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

We get it, you have no fucking clue how wwii played out.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If he trains to shoot Nazis, he should just pin a MAGA cap to his range target.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

The gun mount only turns 45°.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Grandpa may not like fascists. Don't make assumptions.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When I was a little kid I asked my grandfather one time what it was like to “fight evil”. His response was something along the lines of “I didn’t fight evil. They were just a bunch of scared kids doing what they were told. Just like me.”

My grandfather fought in Europe, but Japan was still what kicked off WWII. So, I was super nervous about bringing home the woman that would become my first wife for the first time. Her family was from Okinawa.

When we got there he sat down at the kitchen table and talked to her for a long time. I was in and out doing stuff for the dinner, but they looked happy enough. Later that day he caught me outside and gave me a hug. He told me that she was a good woman and I’d be crazy if I didn’t marry her.

I really miss my grandfather. He was mostly a good dude.

Here’s a picture of him during the battle of the bulge. It’s from a book I have, but this picture was originally published in “Yank” magazine. The original clipping sat over his chair in the living room my entire life.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Respect, going to the range can be a family experience.

Not so sure about Germany round 3 though.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

So fucking dumb.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Funny thing, he'll never expect to be part ofround three, coming from his maga buddies that are shooting right beside him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Excellent 👌

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