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[โ€“] [email protected] 56 points 8 months ago (1 children)

By annual ridership, the New York City Subway is the busiest rapid transit system in both the Western Hemisphere and the Western world, as well as the eleventh-busiest rapid transit rail system in the world.[18] The subway carried 1,793,073,000 riders in 2022.[6]:โ€Š2โ€Š[note 5] On October 29, 2015, more than 6.2 million people rode the subway system, establishing the highest single-day ridership since ridership was regularly monitored in 1985.[20]

The system is also one of the world's longest. Overall, the system contains 248 miles (399 km) of routes,[10] translating into 665 miles (1,070 km) of revenue track[10] and a total of 850 miles (1,370 km) including non-revenue trackage.[11] Of the system's 28 routes or "services" (which usually share track or "lines" with other services), 25 pass through Manhattan, the exceptions being the G train, the Franklin Avenue Shuttle, and the Rockaway Park Shuttle.

The NYC system was built a century ago and operates at an astonishing level considering its for one city and is so relatively inexpensive.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway#:~:text=By%20annual%20ridership%2C%20the%20New,carried%201%2C793%2C073%2C000%20riders%20in%202022.

[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

And this appears to be a shot of a closed station that appears to be lit by flashlight - my guess is someone urbexing an abandoned station. There are quite a few stations in NYC that have been closed in the past century and aren't well maintained. Some are still passed by active trains even though there's no longer a stop there.

[โ€“] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Of all things America sucks at, the NYC subway is not the thing to attack. Fuck cars

[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

The issue isn't the presence of a subway system, but rather the need for more funding, care and attention.

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Agreed. We are lucky to have that. Also I'm pretty sure that the photos were chosen to show off the worse of the US subway system in NYC. I remember riding it once and thought it was pretty clean.

I guarantee that someone could do the same for the other subway systems if they should choose too.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

In all of Vietnam there are currently two active metro lines, one of which is only partially complete.

I hope it improves. Many lines are under construction but all of the projects have been plagued by delays for years.

But why would you include this as an example here?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (6 children)

make better agi prop, the US has the most gorgeous metro system in the world. Facts dont care about your feelings. (If you dont like brutalist architecture you probably wont like it and I'm sorry)

[โ€“] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ahem, have you seen the Moscow subway?

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (7 children)

In case anyone is wondering, that's Komsomolskaya station, built in 1952. Later stations tended to not be so opulent.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Feels a little bougie if you ask me, but to each their own.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Funny you'd say that, because even though the first plans for it date back to the Russian Empire, it was the communists under Stalin who actually built it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Yeah. DC has some very pretty metro stations. NYC has SO MANY stops in Manhattan it was silly when visiting.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Do you mean "agitprop"?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They didn't. The UK isn't cummunist enough

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

... ? Cummunist? It is some kind of fetish?

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Yes. It's when you seize the means of reproduction.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I love propaganda I love propaganda I love propaganda I love propaganda

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[โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Talk about cherry picking lmao

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Memes can pick few a cherries, as a treat.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

There's the Oculus stattion in NYC which is ok, but I hate the building it's connected to. It's one of only a handful of nice stations though. Half of the NYC metro looks like Silent Hill.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Moscow's is nice too (and we know whom to thank for that).

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

why do actual communist planned economy nations have such great train stations (and aesthetics in general)

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Car infrastructure is just, and I do mean this seriously, unimaginably expensive. If you do not priotize the car you have such a shitton of money left over you can just put like, chandeliers in your metro stations.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

was the USSR very low on car infrastructure? I honestly don't know so I'm asking (I know they had great train stations too)

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Late stage, no, not so much, earlier stages? Yeah, absolutely, especially compared to like the west

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Having worked for the MTA on the subway system years back, I invite you all to remember that we built one of the very first subway systems in the world, definitely first in scale, knowing we'd make mistakes in implementation, along with a lot of successful ideas.

Everyone else learns from our mistakes, we gladly hosted the engineering team from Los Angeles and Bangkok when they wanted to share notes with us.

With almost 200miles/320km of public tracks, this is easily the most successful mass transit system internationally. "BuT gWaFiTi BaD :( "

Give it a rest, posers.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nope, first was UK with London Underground in 1863 (has 250 miles of track now) and 5th was USA is 1897.

https://www.oldest.org/geography/subway-systems/

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Hi friend, please reread and note the caveat, "one of the very first", which position number 5 certainly includes.

Also, a bit childish to want to rank systems based on creation date. If you feel like "losing", please read on:

  • NYC total system length is about 800 miles (1.1km)
  • yearly ridership: 1.8bn rides
  • If we count the el's (elevated rapid transit, which is still running), first ride was in iirc 1868.

But look, the important thing is that both our countries (presuming you live in the UK) have nice mass transit systems to keep cars off the roads. I look forward to visiting your country and riding its underground system at some point.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

One could make a similar post of a clean American city and European cities with graffiti everywhere.

Most all major cities have graffiti. I will say that Iโ€™m pretty surprised at the number of EU cities that have massive graffiti everywhere. The US has issues, but a lot of larger graffiti is limited to poorer, less-traveled or more inaccessible areas. EU? Huge graffiti right across shop fronts roll-down shutters on the Main Street. Surprising.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

NYC subway rats will fuck you up, I joke. City subways are actually decent, maybe not the best, but they get by.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I care less about how a subway station looks than how the system itself works and its coverage. Unfortunately the US has neither. If we want to fix one thing, its function and coverage, not aesthetic.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

The underground stations in Prague are great as well!

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Bad meme, id you want to dunk on the US find a better angle than obvious propaganda.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

The only way to truly experience the Montreal's subway is through the smell.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

NYC subway isn't that bad, yeah it's not mind blowing but it works and when you need to commute that's all that matters

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Russia (St.Petersburg)

Spain (Madrid Atocha)

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

SPB's stations are some of the nicest I had the pleasure of being in. The focus back when it was built really was on the people.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Today I learned of the Pyongyang Metro. Their trains are really cute!

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

*New York City

Other metro systems look way nicer, looking through the images on a "American subway station" search

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Kinda feels like you could make a 4 picture graph from each country with varying levels of grime.

Except NK, they probably only have the one spotless one.

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