He'll back out. Above all things he's a coward.
this post was submitted on 09 Jan 2024
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Accompanied by whining “they wouldn’t let me”
Because his remarks will be "leaked" and it will be full of horrendous and inflammatory shit and probably not even be legal (I'm pretty sure there's limits on what can be said in closing statements.
In practice, judges give attorneys great freedom at closing, as long as the argument has some relation to the evidence presented at trial. Additionally, judges must carefully craft any restrictions on closing so that they don't deny the defendant the opportunity to discuss important considerations for the jury.
Nonetheless, there are limits to proper closing argument. When attorneys overstep them, usually a judge will simply tell the jury to disregard the improper argument. But when attorneys commit serious misconduct during closing, a judge might declare a mistrial, and if not, a court of appeal might overturn any conviction.
Arguments must be based on evidence. Most importantly, the conclusions that an attorney urges a jury to draw must be based on the evidence. Counsel cannot use the closing argument as an opportunity to refer to evidence that wasn't part of the trial. For example, an attorney can't argue that no similar crimes have been committed in the location in question since the defendant's arrest without having presented evidence to that effect.
Arguments cannot be irrelevant, confusing, or prejudicial. Judges can also prohibit or exclude arguments that are unrelated to the case, confusing, or inflammatory. For example, name-calling is generally forbidden. And asking the jury to "send a message" to other criminals by finding the defendant guilty may be improper since the focus is only whether the particular defendant on trial committed a crime. (State v. Woodard, 2013 ME 36 (2013).)
*emphasis mine.
**lots of emphasis on that last emphasis. you know why.
I don't think this trail has a jury and is purely to set damages.
I say this is it is important to the implications.
The judge basically is the jury. Well, that’s an oversimplification.
There’s still limitations on it, and all that really means is that the people/person making the decision are going to be far less tolerant of name calling and threats,
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If his lawyers were competent, they'd be telling him to STFU. Fortunately, no competent lawyer will represent him.
They might if he actually paid them.
He laid $3M up front to a very good lawyer in Georgia.
Who urged him to look for a plea deal.
And got benched, and is now chilling doing sweet fuck all and waiting out his retainer.
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The judge after Trump has finished speaking.
“What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
"Absolutely not."
- God
I would believe if he came out and said this just one time. I swears it
Hahaha
Will that be before he releases his glorious healthcare plan and immigration deal or after? Because those have been coming in at any moment now.
It's scheduled for after he shares his tax returns
Which will be 5-7 business days after he deposits Mexico's check for building the wall.
Now that's not fair, you know the IRS that has stated many times it's not, is auditing him and so he can't share that information or he totally would! /s
he does a lot of "intending" to be big and brave in front of "sources"
I'll believe it when I see it.
He loves to do this little act where he puffs up his chest and claims that he's going to testify, only to back down at the last minute.
Closing arguments cannot contain commentary "about issues outside the case or about evidence that was not presented," so, yeah, I can't wait.
So it will result in a barrage of sustained objections. That's music to Trump's ears. Is this oppression? [butterfly]
Maybe his plan is to be held in contempt so he becomes a martyr and proves to his idiots that he's being silenced (though everyone else sees that he's simply not following the rules).
No, he doesn't. He always backs out at the last minute. I'll bet a tooth he doesn't even show up for closing arguments.
Oh please oh please oh please
I have never wanted anything so much as this.
General Tso Chi Kin says, when your enemy is making a mistake, shut your dumb mouth you idiots.
I'm the victim of a very unfair trial and very unfair judge. A judge who I think probably has magnets, if there's one thing I know it's magnets and you put water on it - no more magnets. No but - it's true, Mexico is sending over killer magnets that hate Christians, it's so terrible, folks, the biased prosecution doesn't - I don't have to because of president. See, they don't want you to know that - it's true that many people are saying I'm the smartest fraud who ever shat himself, but I think - if you want America back, you need to buy my steaks.
Amen.
This is almost believable! You time traveler
Please do, you mush-mouthed cock. Open up your rancid maw and get that cuban heeled foot in there nice and deep.
It's all fun and games till he tries to pull a hitler and use his time in court in insite violence or another more dangerous insurrection
If he's going to "pull a Hitler" he should skip all the nonsense and move straight to the final act.
Pulling a Hitler would actually entail a conviction for a failed coup and years in prison before the grab for power.... And a shitty political book written in prison.
He's even failing in emulating Hitler the right way.
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Doubt
Any legal experts in here? Can this be used as testimony for the judge/jury?
I don't know why people are acting like he won't...
This isn't taking the stand as a witness, this isn't presenting facts like a lawyer.
And his lawyers will still say everything they were gonna say anyways.
This is just trump knowing how much this will get his name out for something remotely positive. He isn't speaking to the judge, he's speaking to his followers. And this is going to bring in a shit ton of donations. He knows any sound bite is going all over national news for a day or two.
He can say whatever he wants and lie about whatever. And everyone has to listen to him, it's a captive audience of people that he believes hates him and are "witch hunting" him.
trump is gonna be a trumpet in a subway car.
First of all, he won't present facts.
Secondly, he is talking to the judge as there is no media allowed in the room.
Third, the judge can stop his blather anytime he wants to, which is the reason he won't do it.
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Well, it's not the worst idea he's ever had.
Although, I'm really only saying that because this is the same guy that suggested nuking tornadoes, trading PR for Greenland, and drinking bleach to cure COVID.
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Could he be trying to cause some sort of mistrial or appeal on the grounds that his lawyers we incompetent for not stopping him?
0% chance this will happen.
Yeah, not even the first time he's made a claim like that and then chickened out.
In the end, he’ll shit himself.
'Please proceed, ~~governor~~ Mr. Trump'
Does he plan to filibuster his way out of jail? Ain't nobody got time or this fucker's rambling.
Oh god I hope it’s available on video. I’ll bet you could make a drinking game with the number of crimes he admits to and commits in that single speech.
No media is allowed in the courtroom. So all we will get is snippets/transcriptions from journalists that are on-site. And probably select quotes from his lawyers pointing out how he's innocent and the victim of political prosecution. 🙄
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This should be good.
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