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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago

Ah but they posted the Reuters article maliciously. In a scheming, tankie sort of way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nearly half (46%) globally said that the European Union, United States and Nato were doing too little to assist Ukraine, while 11% said they are doing too much

I do think the paper is flawed but not useless. I wasn't really the one who posted it though, it's the primary source for this claim in the other article.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Sure, for what it's worth I could concede that a global majority might approve of support for Ukraine according to this data. Looking at raw data from: https://www.allianceofdemocracies.org/initiatives/the-copenhagen-democracy-summit/dpi-2023/

That figure may not be accurate however, especially because I can't see that they computed a weighted global total by population. They extrapolate to obtain each "nationally representative result" by taking into account the respondents' age, gender and education to mitigate selection bias. I have my doubts about extrapolating like that, but okay. The main problem is when you check the global total, it's just an unweighted average of all nations. Highlighted in orange: Top - unweighted average of all nations, Bottom - reported figure from the author

Each country has ~1000 respondents, so there isn't a proportional representation of each country based on its population - small countries (mostly imperial core, as it happens) have an outsized effect on the average.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I see this one a lot.

I seriously don't understand why so many of you dickride Russia, other than "west bad". The current Russian government is antithetical to so many of the values you claim to champion.

Seriously, who? Who is "dickriding Russia because west bad"? The current state of Russia is the result of the USSR's undemocratic dissolution and the subsequent shock doctrine, obviously it's antithetical to our values. Everyone knows that. People aren't being blinded by "west bad" - because they generally aren't literal children who can only understand the world in terms of good guys and bad guys. What they're doing is critically analyzing media and history.

Hate to employ the dreaded whataboutism, but it seems to me this critique applies more to the opposite side. You say people are "Slotting nicely into Russia's playbook", "parroting Kremlin propaganda". On their own, these are empty thought-terminators. You're not concerned about understanding reality, just about making absolutely sure you're 100% not on "Russia's side" of this issue, because they're the bad guys in this dichotomy.

I seriously don't understand why so many of you dickride the west, other than "Russia bad". The current western governments are antithetical to so many of the values you claim to champion.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

mfw they close down the dog-kicking factory, destroying thousands of honest jobs

:deeper-sadness:deeper-sadness

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

Here, I'll post an article as well, hopefully nobody "makes themselves scarce" because of it: https://redsails.org/another-view-of-tiananmen/

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

we're just normal men... we're just innocent men

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not censored. It's openly discussed in the literature. Unsurprisingly, they don't let you spread unsubstantiated claims about massacres, though.

If, as I've seen many a white "journalist" do, you go up to a random chinese person on the streets and ask "Hey do you know about the thousands of people that were massacred?" they would, very understandably, think you were deranged.