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specifically : a historical process by which the semantic and connotative status of a word tends to decline

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Why is it liberal media when wall Street journal is right leaning and Adam Kirsch doesn't have any posted political affiliations?

[–] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Because OP is the worst. Perpetually online and perpetually unpopular

I saw this photograph of a printed article someone posted earlier. The comments called that person out for cropping out the actual article, which was measured and nuanced, and using the headline as ragebait. Dude here just elevating to the next level of ignorant

Here's the actual article

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Because TokenBoomer is a rightwing shill, posts nothing but anti-leftwing stuff pretending its all #BothSides.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yo peep their post history.

• Pro-Obama voter (plan saved her life)

• Capitalism lead to modern slavery in chocolate production

• Police kill 10k family dogs a year

Pro-Obama. Anti-Capitalism. Anti-Police Brutality.

Maybe you’re thinking of someone else or I didn’t dig deep enough?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

He sanitizes his post history. I've had several interactions with him to the point that I remember his name. Everything in my inbox that has his name says that content can't be found.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Might be wrong to ask for screenshots since folks should be allowed to have some agency there… when they’re not being abusive… What were you discussing?

Saw this amongst tons of left-wing content and pro-Palestine views, but not sure what the original posts were:

Will keep an eye out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What's wrong with people deleting posts that they don't agree with / don't want public?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Everything I've seen from OP leads me to believe they are leftist. Care to cite an example of them shilling for the right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Centrists have this thing where they accuse anyone to their left of being all the way to their right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

neoliberalism is right wing.

democrats as not leftists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You’re at +6/-6 at 3hr in. Wonder if those six downvoters checked for themselves or assumed you were fibbing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One thing I love about being on this instance is I'm blissfully unaware because downvotes are disabled. This is what I see.

American Democrats think anyone who criticizes their actions -- such as opening more concentration camps, continuing Trump's wall (yes, that wall), arming genocidal states, and taking power away from the working class -- anyone who criticizes these things MUST be a right-wing shill.

I'm not joking. That's really what they think. I get it all the time. Hence the downvotes, and hence the unfounded claims about OP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Ahh…

So satisfying, on the other hand, to see posts reach +400 without dissent…

Everyone liked that!

It also gives a good town hall kind of feel, like I get a sense of how many people are in the room and how many are shaking their heads.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Looks like a typical agitprop/anger amplifier news spammer

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

That's a lot of labels

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Guess it says something about me that I enjoy all their posts lol

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

For me to be rightwing, you would have to be a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

"liberal" is used here as in neoliberal, which is rightwing and capitalist.

also in the us, democrats lean slightly right of center.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Again, if you want to conserve capitalism, you’re a liberal to Socialists. I understand classical, libertarian, social, neoliberal definitions. The consensus among socialists is that liberalism supports capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

This is close to what I meant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Again, if you want to conserve capitalism, you’re a liberal to Socialists.

Sooo what you're saying is that Socialists think conservatives are liberals?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, in the sense they also believe in the neoliberal free-market and private-property capitalism. This also means liberals are still right wing, albeit much further to the left than conservatives.

Both conservatives and so-called liberals believe in free market capitalism, despite having radically different points of view when it comes to social issues like racism, poverty, guns etc. Socialists agree with left-leaning liberals on the vast majority of social issues btw.

In a nutshell, if you think really good representatives could fix most of the issues with capitalism as it stands you are a liberal/neoliberal. If you think the current capitalist system can't be fixed by just changing the players without changing the game you are a leftist/socialist. You can go further left than you might be used to, this is where this confusion comes from.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Socialists think conservatives are liberals?

It's not that we think that... it's just that we don't really see much of a difference.