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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

that's it, he's done. The Liberals HAVE to ask Trudeau to step down as leader now, they literally have to. Even if the liberals had just squeaked by a win it would still put into question his leadership but now? he's toast. I mean when you have NDP voters who would rather have a Con win than the liberals...oof yeah Trudeaus days are numbered.

Edit: don't know why I'm being downvoted for speaking the truth and what pretty much everyone in the politicalsphere have said. He has to step down now, it's facts. I'm by no means a conservative voter. I hate them, this is fucked, but make no mistake Trudeau is finished. it's over folks. Get over it, liberals are done.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thinking that NDP voters want a CPC government is a fucking conservative fantasy.

Let's bear in mind that Trudeau handed this win to the CPC by repeatedly failing to pass any kind of voting reform - the CPC will never be able to win a majority vote among Canadians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

You only need 30% of the vote to get a majority government in Canada

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Strategically it doesn't make sense. It's better for him to run and lose intentionally, then step down after the loss.

That allows the people to get their hate out, and resets the playing field for the next election cycle when people realize the Conservatives haven't done shit all to make life more affordable.

The core problems Trudeau is being blamed for aren't really his fault. They're global trends happening everywhere, including places with conservative governments.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That allows the people to get their hate out, and resets the playing field for the next election cycle when people realize the Conservatives haven’t done shit all to make life more affordable.

Traditionally this hasn't been how Canadian politics has played out. We tend to have long running federal governments over single term governments except in cases of extremely disastrous political results (ie. forcing an early election by a vote of non-confidence, etc...)

Canadian voters seem to be very very patient. It won't matter how shitty PP and the Cons are as a government, voters will keep on electing them in for a decade or more before finally having enough. Same as we did with the Liberals, and same as we did with Harper before that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure that's going to hold true with so many people being effectively inflated into poverty.

It's going to get worse, a lot worse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem remains: Who else have they got?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Mark Carney, apparently. I thought he was still Governor of the Bank of England, but he went on to work for Brookfield and Bloomberg and is now being talked about as a likely successor to Trudeau. Perhaps Canada will follow a few years behind the UK. Some seemingly endless years of thorough mismanagement by the increasingly delusional Conservatives, followed by a nominally left-wing party lurching to the right to occupy the conservative but slightly less-insane position the Tories once held.