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this is so me btw, I wish i could draw soo bad

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[โ€“] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

fuck it

draw it anyway

gotta start somewhere

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (9 children)

that's true, I'll start gathering reference ๐Ÿคญ

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[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

You'll never get the talent if you never draw, so even if you think it'll be shit draw it anyway. Ignore skill level and stop treating it as a barrier instead of a challenge. That's how I improved, when I stopped caring about whether I thought I could pull off a picture. Now I just attempt to draw it and if I fail to achieve the effect I want I try again and see what I can do differently the next time. Caring too much about whether I was skilled enough or whether the outcome would be good every time held me back because I became too reluctant and scared to start any projects.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (8 children)

okay this is actually really motivating

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Great!

There's also something so satisfying about looking at a finished picture that you made by yourself. Like I'll be thinking the whole time how I really screwed this one up and it turned out nothing like what I wanted, but I'll keep scratching away until it's "done." And it feels... Really really good.

And then a week later I'll open my notepad and see what I drew and be like "whoa this is pretty cool actually!" There's usually at least one part about a drawing I like (like a bit if shading that looks cool, even by accident), that I can take with me as something to focus on attempting.

Just keep doing that and eventually people will just say about you "oh man so-and-so is a really good drawer you should see their stuff" and you know you're still learning, always learning, but still you'll believe them. You've become a good drawer. An artist.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Everyone who is really amazing at art started out pretty sucky, people just don't see the starting work of the amazing artists they see online. I totally agree with your points and this applies to writing, working out, anything needing sustained effort for improvement.

Work on it, OP! You will be surprised at how quickly you improve after doing something consistently for a year.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Me
lacking with the:
idea, knowledge, practice,
workflow, plan, proper working tools,
purpose, resources, ability to stick to something long-term,
or energy and morale to even get started on anything of note (this list may be incomplete):

"the winds of change are gonna really knock something into line, I feel it. Yep, any week now.
Just gotta scan the horizons. Or is it more like a pot of water? Hmm... Maybe there's something I missed."

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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

You're saying it like it's an inaccessible skill. Time + practice = unlock new ability. edit: sp

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can use a local stable diffusion workflow and paint bad then repaint and reroll any image. Takes some effort but not drawing skills thankfully

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

no thanks, I like it to be entirely mine. stable diffusion/adobe firely is reserved for concept art in gamedev, now that is a good use case

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If you have money: pay for someone else's talent.

If you don't: AI. Or practice, I guess. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There's no such thing as talent. Good artists make good art because they practice well and often.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

May I interest you with vector arts?

It's simple to start with, easy to edit and best of all, infinitely scalable!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I tried illustrator once and never want to touch it again

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is where AI art generation comes in. Still takes some work to generate the parts you want, and assemble them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

"I wish I could make nice things."

"Have you considered theft?"

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

me as an artist: has cool idea for drawing

my brain: cool well we're doing everything else more important rn, but good job participating!

I weep.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I say that while real important work is due, then game anyway and stress over it later :D

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

there are, dark ways, ways some might call inethical

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

im no stranger to ai art, but what i need, it cant provide, and even if it did, doesnt feel authentic or capture that feeling im looking for

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You are aware ai can be used as part of a process, you don't need an ai that can do everything in one go

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

yeah but they said they don't have the skill to make art; an artist is not just a color they use or a brush they paint with, an artist also requires knowledge of what to use and where to use it

edit: used a semicolon in an art tangent, call me pretentious

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

There's a difference between generated images and an AI artist. If you learn the tools and put in the leg-work, you can learn to get exactly the output you want

It's not easy, but if you have a clear image and use all the tools available you can get there. It goes way beyond the initial prompt - it's very iterative, processing and reprocessing parts of an image until you get what you want

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Use Stables Diffusion? That's what it's for, no? Not like you're putting an artist out of work with that, and it can be great fun learning how it all works, I suggest you start with the Automatic1111 frontend and ignore the controlnets and stuff for now, then move into ComfyUI for extra performance benefits with XL and chaining models and such, it's all fairly simple to install nowadays and is free (as in beer) and open source like the model itself.

Once you get controlnets working, if you can sketch it's great because you can much more precisely guide the model into filling out parts you struggle with in drawing, img2img can also be useful if you can at least draw stick figure composition to guide it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Or just like... actually practice art so you can learn instead of fiddling with plagiarism machine for hours

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I don't have the talent to paint my plastic soldiers well either.
I still do it.

So: JUST DO IT!!!11

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I used to feel this. I always felt like I'm just not cut out for art. Then I made friends with some artists, picked up some techniques from watching them draw, and now I'm fairly confident in my work. I'm not amazing at it, but I've learned to ignore those feelings of insecurity and now I have a lot of fun with shitty little doodles.

Just remember, there's no such thing as a bad art style.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (5 children)

There is no talent and there is no effort. There is only skill. It took me years to obtain all the techniques I use to make what resembles industry standards. Lots of "young artists" just keep repeating the same flat, unshaded, rough pieces without ever trying to learn new things and it honestly kind of irks me that they don't even try to improve themselves.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Dont let your dreams just be dreams, you won't make anything great without creating alot of stuff that sucks, so start now and get all the stuff that sucks out of the way. Greatness comes with repetition, and being consistent.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Same so I draw shit like this

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

That's a cool look. I know what you mean too, keeping it abstract is a way to scratch the creative itch while also being hard to fail at

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Work your drawing, talent is fake. Facility from baby and social differences exists though. But work it it, this is never too late for real. Can be hard, but again, work it ^^"

Time is the true variable. Put time in your works. Except capitalists ones, that's just for payday then ^^"

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It really sucks, don't it?

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