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Folks, I have finally figured it out.

Have a baby.

Since having a baby a week ago, all of a sudden everyone is willing to install a decent messaging app in order to receive pics of the baby.

We explained that we weren't ready for images of our child to end up in the wrong hands via non-private apps. Another thing was telling them that the one single friend who had already got on board with this had already been recieving pics...

It's been a conversation starter for many and I think seeing privacy from the point of view of a newborn has helped our family and friends understand it a bit more easily. Plus they've had to put up with it if they want any photos, so they will see it working firsthand.

So, if you want to have a baby, know that it can be a wonderful opportunity to help loved ones communicate more privately.

It also increases the sum total of love, community and compassion in the world and in your own life but that's a conversation for another community :)

Edit: If anyone has good tips on how to share a little one's journey more privately with those that care about them, please post them in the discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

i hope signal becomes the "go-to" app in near future in europe because i'm sick of using whatsapp

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I have two kids. I asked people to use signal to send and receive the photos. Asking people to follow your requirements only works for the direct immediate communication. The photos of my kids were sent by the recipients I sent them to (over signal) to other members of the family, over gmail (unencrypted), WhatsApp, Instagram, etc. I learned that years after.

This was in direct violation of my express requests. When I confronted them, they played dumb.

So, not to be a buzzkill here OP, but if you did this to get more people to use your messenger of choice, good job, it worked. If you did this so the pics of your kids stayed on safe apps, don't fool yourself. They didn't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

That's OK, I understand that unfortunately it's only a matter of time until images of them end up somewhere I don't want want them, either through ignorance or a difference in values. That's the world we live in right now sadly. But hopefully I can delay and minimise it a bit, open a better channel of communication with a few friends and relatives and perhaps raise some awareness in the process.

I'm genuinely sorry to hear about your experience, especially with the pictures of them ending up on instagram. At least you were responsible as a parent and tried to do your best.

Its important to share and celebrate the birth of a child with your community. Yet another part of our lives that has been compromised by the degradation of our privacy unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, my strategy is to not share pictures of my kids at all. I can hold my phone up in front of people's face so they can look if they want, but that's it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My relatives hated this strategy, and I wasn't the only one who suffered from it. They guilted me for it, but also guilted my parents and siblings. As if they are entitled to the details of my daughter.

People could handle (though they were vocally unhappy about it) is keeping the baby off Facebook. They could not handle me not sending pics on (Facebook) messenger, and they couldn't handle me not telling me the birth weight.

Multiple boomers got very upset that I wanted to keep that information private.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Man that sounds really horrible. I'm sorry to hear your relatives were so unsupportive. I hope everyone gets along now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Could I simply purchase a baby?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Just be careful with the return policy, if your past the 60 day window it locks in a multi year contract.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I discovered that it doesn't work if the baby's other parent is an avid Facebook user.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Personally this would be the exact reason that would stop me from signing up for a new messaging service.

Yes, your baby is special and amazing. To you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Genius idea. Is there an app that reverses a vasectomy and twenty years of aging? But seriously, this idea has got legs, I love it. Congrats with your baby. Have you made a Facebook account for them yet?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s why my aunt and uncle finally got iPhones. They were missing out on iMessage and FaceTime with the grandkids and rest of the family making plans.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, so the family chose to keep two people out of the loop until they caved and bought new hardware instead of adding one more app that would be common for everyone and give everyone the option to use whatever hardware they wanted?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nobody uses third-party messaging apps here; it’s not just those two old people. There’s just no need. MMS has horrible quality videos and can’t be added and removed from a group chat and breaks functionality for everyone else in the chat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That'd why Apple is getting sued by the DOJ among other reasons

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

DOJ needs to fuck off. Of people want to use an inferior product like android they’re free to, but nobody else should have to suffer for their bad decisions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Ok Tim Apple

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

If anyone has good tips on how to share a little one’s journey more privately with those that care about them, please post them in the discussion.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Damn of all the times to be an antinatalist... I guess it's Messenger 🤢 video chats with my family for the foreseeable future

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

We are all antenatal my friend.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wait, who other than the grandparents actually wants to see the baby pictures? In my experience it is insufferable new parents that want to show their baby pictures to everyone and you have to pretend to like it to be polite. Maybe others just agreed to using another messenger just so they could ignore it better?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Have ever held a baby. They are little happy squish balls. It's intoxicating physiologically.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

How could you drop a baby? You ever held a baby? How could you not?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I know it's a hard concept... But people can be nice and genuinely happy for them?

Your basement is likely insufferable too.