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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Protectionism only works in the VERY short term. If the USA doesn't pull its finger out of its ass and make affordable good EVs, then its automotive industry will crash and burn. Because the rest of the world unaffected by tariffs will be buying Chinese (or Korean / European) EVs and not American ones because they'll be expensive and suck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (20 children)

I would mind less if the American auto industry was producing affordable lightweight EVs...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Best we can do is a four ton truck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or cars with any level of quality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Hey man the Toyota I drive was made in the USA, it's great.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

they really willing to throw the planet under the bus so they can protect their own oligarchs. so much for the free market.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

"We want expensive American EVs that most people can't afford, not cheap Chinese ones....."

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

With how china keeps implanting everything with spyware, I agree to keep them away from the heavy tech incorporated cars. Really wish we could transition away from using chinese shit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

All auto manufacturers put spyware in their cars now. This isn't a china problem, this is an everyone problem. We need anti-spyware laws that apply to everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh? More spyware than GM selling your data to your insurance company? More spyware than all of the stuff your smartphone collects?

It's absolutely a bad faith argument to say we can't have Chinese cars because they conduct industry standard data scraping.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Something something free market

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Hey, capitalism is only good when it makes the rich richer...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

The free market is propaganda to trick people into thinking capitalism is somehow ethically solvent.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Then China shouldn’t subsidize its manufacturers’ exports while increasing the burden for foreign companies to compete internally. If anyone thinks China cornering the global EV market is a good long term plan, they are naive.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Isn't it a national security risk?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Then he should solve the issue by requiring the code to be hosted on American servers with source code inspection.

Not by making EVs unaffordable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Novel idea: make a car, not a cloud service. My phone is better at navigation etc anyways.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes a big risk. Both natsec and IP theft are major concerns and cars are fully mic'd, compromisable, and to top it off, plug directly into your phone.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Anti China Republicans are going to HATE this! They would MUCH rather Elect the man whose Daughter got over 70 patents FASTTRACKED in China once he was elected!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

They would just put their hands on their ears and repeat "Hunter Biden laptop" until a scary fact like that one goes away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Make them in Mexico. Less reliance on one country is better for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They’re trying to block mexican made Chinese vehicles as well. They don’t want Americans buying cheap evs.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (5 children)

If only he could extend that rationale to every industry

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