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I dont know about others, but sometimes I am not able to check my phone, or be fully present in a conversation that I'm part of. Maybe I'm concentrating on work, or driving, and not able to look. It gets distracting when my phone is constantly buzzing and chiming for 5 minutes straight. Muting the chat can help, but if you forget to check it, or get added to a new one, you can't really do anything about it. I just want to be able to get notified once that the chat has new messages, decide how I want to react, and then move on from it. Is that too much to ask?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just set group chat notifications to silent.

I still get a notification that's easy to spot in the tray/bar, but it doesn't play sound or vibrate, so it's not distracting unless I'm already looking at the screen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I just have my phone silent at all times. I might miss a call once in while, but I don't get many calls anyways.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

If you're on Android, BuzzKill can set your notifications to "cool down", so if you get multiple within a short time, you will only get buzzed again once a set amount of time has passed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

I bet you use an iPhone, right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think that's a good idea, my solution is to mute group chats and check them when I'm free, but it's not ideal for the reasons you've mentioned.

In whatsapp there's only the option to mute the chat.

In discord there's granular level of control that allows me to mute everything but direct notifications (@d00ery).

But if you implemented such a feature, how would you limit it?

i.e. one notification for the first message and then mute all replies for 5 mins? What happens when that one person who always replies an hour later messages?

Could we use AI to check if the conversation is still related to the original message?

From a dev perspective there's all sorts of solutions but I wonder how would one find the sweet spot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I imagine it would be "$GroupChatName has new messages..." And can be dismissed the same as any other push notification. Whether or an additional notification comes after that could be configurable

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Do Not Disturb is the default mode on my phone, unless I expect to be present.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like it already works that way... I'll get 1 notification a day, despite there being constant banter going on in the chat even though I want it to notify me of every individual message.

I wouldn't even be surprised if it just works in the opposite way you want it to on purpose.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I feel like it's app dependent. We use discord, and I feel like I get 1 notification per channel, but then other apps like LinkedIn (for shame!) are fucking incessant, and will REnotify me multiple times for things I've already dismissed. It's infuriating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

if you use Android, you can use Macrodroid to play the notification sound and show its own notification when this app shows a new notification, but with the condition there Macrodroids notification isn't there yet. Then you make the apps notifications silent. This way it will only play the sound once until you close the one from Macrodroid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

If you're on Android, I use an app called buzzkill to add a cooldown after a notification.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It was years ago, so my memory might not be perfect, but I had something that kinda did that. I think it was an Xposed module called GravityBox, and there was an option to limit repeat notifications. I had set a cool down period of probably 1 minute, meaning if I received multiple messages within 60 seconds, it would only notify once, but if I received another message 60+ seconds after the first, it would ding again. I'm pretty sure that the cool down period was customizable per app too. Damn, I miss that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It should be mostly possible with ntfy, except everything would have to use it, and most apps just use one of the centralized push notification services.

I have a mildly smart home, and the server sends a push notification via ntfy. I have one of those mobile automaton tools on my phone that plays an mp3 when it sees that kind of notification. Then I have audio notifications turned off in the ntfy app my phone. With sufficiently advanced rules, I think you could set up something like you suggest; if not, a custom app could do it - one notification, and then there rest are silent until you dismiss it.

It's not a complete solution (unless you use Matrix, which can be configured to send notifications via ntfy), but my point is there's little technically preventing a solution being hacked together with existing tools. Except for those apps that only use Google or Apples push notification systems. Which is most of them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think your last paragraph sums up the reason for my frustration. Most of my family and friends are only chatting via the standard text app for their respective phones, and so I specifically would want to configure those notifications

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it's not ideal. I feel you; when group texts get chatty, it gets really annoying and you have to mute it. Good luck in your quest, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Matrix can send notification via ntfy? Do you have more info on that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

If you’re on iOS setting up profiles would work. I have work, driving, and do not disturb. Each one allowing/blocking specific notifications

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Perhaps try Alertify.

In my case I use Voice Notify which reads out the messages. Giving the phone a shake shuts it up.