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Trump Legal Team Pins Hopes on Hung Jury (www.thebulwark.com)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Juror #2 an "investment banker" who gets all their news exclusively from ~~Trump~~ Truth social and ~~Elon~~ twitter. The red hat is there to save the day, hang the jury on some nonsense to protect the cult leader.

If I'm wrong, and the jury convicts, point to this thread and I'll donate $25 to charity.

The observers in the court won't say who it is, but I guarantee its that one.

Edit: I have chosen Special Olympics Canada as the charity.

Edit2: I was wrong, I will make that donation tonight and post the blurry receipt

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To balance it out and give to charity regardless of the outcome, I'll donate $50 if you're right. That way there's always something good happening even if it may be small.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Right on

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Nah. Most jurors are paying attention to the evidence. Trump supporters aren't the lone rebels they think they are. There's literally a mountain of evidence and the prosecutor's closing argument was 6.5 hours long (not including breaks).

Every other person in that jury room is going to want to go home and won't put up with someone stopping them. Even if this dude tries anything (he probably won't), he's going to crack by day 3.

I bet we see a guilty verdict for at least some of the charges within 3 days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I dare not hope.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some jurors just asked for and received a laptop from the prosecution with all the evidence on it. That means they won't have to ask to view individual pieces of evidence, which will make this much faster.

That tells me they are interested in the evidence and that they want to get this over with. A possible quick (3 day) decision would mean they are done by Friday.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

All it takes is one traitor - one - and he walks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, it doesn't. You're watching too much 24 hour news or something. These jurors don't just silently vote, they discuss the case for the entire time.

Any juror is going to be asked by the others how they came to their conclusion. There's no way to get away with it without scrutiny. Trump supporters can't stand scrutiny, especially not with this much evidence and 34 felonies! They should convict on at least some of them. Trump literally signed the checks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You’re being naive. MAGA fucktards are not the sort of people who give a fuck about facts and revel in the thought of pissing off the decent among us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, you're being naive if you think one person can stand in the way of 11 New Yorkers who want to go home for the weekend.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This got me good. I’m imagining a bro from Staten Island stuck in a dusty quiet room with bad coffee and New Yorkers from every borough 100% ready to cook.

He can’t log off. He can’t flee to his safe spaces. He can’t feed himself reassuring 4chan memes. He’s exposed. These are his neighbors. There’s nowhere to run. Will his fear and adoration of a wannabe dictator sustain him? Tune in next week to find out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Worse, they're all from Manhattan and 2 of them are lawyers. If they already scheduled a Saturday tee time and the weather is supposed to be nice... I wouldn't want to be in their way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

God I hope you're right!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is why there are alternates, tho. If the judge says the evidence is there to convict then the jury doesn't have a choice. If one juror is a holdout they just get replaced by an alternate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Um. This is entirely inaccurate. I think you may have been misled.

The judge is the arbitor of law (only) during the guilt/innocence phase. The jury is the arbitor of fact (only). Only the jury can determine what the facts of the case are, not the judge. In this way, only the jury can determine if sufficient factual evidence exists to fulfill the elements of a crime.

Alternates take the place of jurors who leave (usually for health or family emergency), but jurors cannot be asked to leave because of their decisions in deliberation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Adding one other thing, a juror can be asked to leave for misconduct as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

"A truly hung jury would laugh Trump out of the locker room."

~ Stormy probably

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hung is something Trump wished he was.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I certainly wish he was too. Just not in such a nice way :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Quirk of English, but the word you're looking for is hanged.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJVNzwTnfbk

Wrong. Hung is correct in the same manner.

I reject your bullshit English rules that are outdated and churlish.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Chicanerous and deplorable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Be careful with what you post publicly, friend.

I hate Trump, but the SS takes comments like yours seriously enough to trigger an investigation.

Edit: I've been schooled. So it's more like winning the lottery. But is that a lottery you'd like to risk winning, though?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You're talking out of your ass. Stuff like this is mild compared to what it takes to trigger that kind of response. Millions of people make comments like these on the daily.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Millions, huh? Show me 100,763 examples.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

https://idahocapitalsun.com/2023/01/31/of-more-than-7500-threats-against-members-of-congress-in-2022-just-22-prosecuted/

7500 hardcore, actually-directed-enough-to-take-serious threats per year. Now, consider all the maga morons and their constant shit talking across the internet, and it's easy to extrapolate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That's not the 100,763 I requested. Checkmate!

But more seriously, thank you for schooling me. I was indeed talking out of my ass, then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Some time back he might would have been for treason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I mean I dont see how their dick size affects it but ok