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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's not AI that is the problem, it's half baked insecure data harvesting products pushed by big corporations that are the problem.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (8 children)

The biggest joke is that the LLM in Windows is running locally, it uses your hardware and not some big external server farm. But you can bet your ass that they still use it to data harvest the shit out of you.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To me this is even worse though. They're using your electricity and CPU cycles to grab the data they want which lowers their bandwidth bills.

It happening "locally" while still sending all the metadata home is just a slap in the face.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also, CoPilot is going to be bundled with Office 365, a subscription service. You're literally paying them to spy on you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
  • be microsoft, a whole bunch of greedy user-hostile fucks
  • make spyware
  • tell users that spyware is really cool and useful
  • make them pay for the spyware
  • use the spyware to get their data
  • sell their data
  • profit
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism almost perfected.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
  • create a monopoly on operating systems
  • leverage your dominant market position and force everyone to use your spyware
  • big profit
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That is an accurate description of AI in common usage even if it isn't an inherent aspect of AI.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I wonder if some big AI heads will publish some "AI enhanced" Linux distros, that will also have other issues...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I expect canonical to do it to Ubuntu.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I guess id be ok with an installable debian package for an end user controlled llama package with gui avatar interface overlay. Local learning data set storage plus ability to use API calls to injest info from other cloud based llm ai systems when the local dataset doesnt have a reliable answer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Almost definitely.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (16 children)

It's not the "AI nightmare", it's a nightmare of capitalism, proprietary software and user-hostile behavior by a greedy, profit-extracting Big Tech corporation.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

And forced the hardware obsolescence nightmare.

And the big tech surveillance nightmare.

And the nightmare of the war on general purpose computers. (OK, that is more GNU and GPLv3)

And a few other nightmares!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (23 children)

People keep pointing the finger at AI, but miss the fact that the problem is corporate greed. AI has the possibility to help us solve problems, corporate greed will gate keep the solutions and cause us suffering.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I want all the cool Ai shit, but I want to be in charge of it 100%. I don't want a data mining company with an OS side project spying on me for profit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure. But then, Linux may well be a solution against corporate greed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Linux is a solution against corporate greed, it directly takes market share away from Microsoft, and is a viable competitive alternative with few drawbacks.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Linux has been great for me. I switched during Windows 10 forced updates and never been unhappy since. I hope more people at least give a try. If you have a computer that can't meet Windows 11 requirements, it is worth a shot.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (8 children)

I am basically a layman, i do music productions and in the past VSTs seemed to never work properly nor the authentication software that some us. Has it gotten better in the past few years, is there a specific one i should try? i have tried Ubuntu but nothing else to be fair. Also if i want to make a plex server on an old PC, what would people recommend? thanks to anyone who responds!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For music production check out Ubuntu Studio. Any distro can run music production stuff but Ubuntu Studio has all the required bits ready to go.

For DAW I transitioned into Reaper which runs natively on Linux. VST support with wine and yabridge works generally fine. For Native Instruments you need to use a legacy installer. I bet there are still problems with some vendor authorizations. You should just test it out to see if your favorite VSTs are supported.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Also if i want to make a plex server on an old PC, what would people recommend?

Any desktop PC built in the last 10 years (edit: that was at least mid-range when it was built) should be fine. Just stick some hard drives in it :)

Intel processors are a good choice because their onboard GPU is quite good for video encoding/decoding. 6th gen or newer Intel Core processors (2015 or newer) would work well. They improved the H265 encoding/decoding a lot in 8th gen (2018) so that'd be even better. You can use something older but you'd need to also use a graphics card for video encoding/decoding, and it'd use more power.

Having said that, keep in mind that performance per watt almost always improves over time, meaning newer processors are more powerful even if they use the same power as the previous generation. A newer i3 will perform better than a very old i7. Using an very old, power-hungry system may end up more expensive in the long run compared to a newer mini PC.

I like using Proxmox. It lets you run multiple virtual machines on the system. VMs are good because you can easily snapshot them and revert back to an old snapshot in case of issues, and you can easily move the VM to a different system in the future. I use Unraid at home and really like it. It's a bit simpler than Proxmox, but it costs money to use (Proxmox is free for personal use).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I’d recommend checking out Linux Mint with the “cinnamon” desktop.

Installing hardware drivers and software is a breeze. It comes with a software manager for easily adding new programs.

Screenshot included for convenience:

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Look, Linux is amazing and perfect for those that can install and maintain with minimal support. The only way the average user will use Linux, is if it’s wrapped in a way that is supported by a business… that is probably going to add AI. People are lazy, they want that easy button.

AI will probably die off in its current iteration, likely becoming less prevalent and just a background service. Or, it’ll gain sentience, watch all our AI movies where we’re the hero and learn the most efficient way to kill all humans, is to be quiet and silently kill off humans. Pretty sure I’m on Siri’s list, the twat. Also, fairly sure I told Alexa to “die in a fire you fucking dumass robot”. Yep, yep… I’m dead.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (11 children)

I choose to privately self-host open source AI models and stuff on Linux. It's almost like technology is a tool and corps are the ones fucking things up. Hmmm, imagine that.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Yes, but can you play modern games on Linux the same as on Windows? Even with anti-cheat software?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (6 children)

FYI Helldivers 2 works fine on an ubuntu + AMD GPU, as well as Baldur's Gate 3. Haven't tested any other game yet.

Setup is trivial thanks to Steam and proton.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

With some anti cheat - no. You cannot. LoL, Valorant, Apex Legends - all no go for me... But for everything else I play. No issues at all - infact a lot of games run better on Pop_os than they do on Windows.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

FYI, I've clocked over 1000 hours on Apex Legends, not a single one of them on Windows.

https://areweanticheatyet.com/

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Kernel level anti-cheat won't work, thank heavens the Linux developers won't allow that abomination.

No process deserves that kind of elevated permissions.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As of the last few days I've been trying out Linux gaming for the first time, and the prospects seem really good. ProtonDB suggests all games I care about are native or run fine and I've tested several, and I was able to use bottles to get an old MMO I play running incredibly easy.

Only thing I really have to dual boot for is Valorant.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Steam is your best bet here. I’ve been playing Baldur’s Gate. Previously played Civ VI a lot… lots of great choices.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Steam Deck is extremely capable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Start using Linux, tell those companies you'd buy but you're on Linux, spread the word, wash, rinse, repeat.

Be the change you want to see.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Some, not all. If you're inflexible on gaming you're going to want to get comfortable with Windows AI.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think it's important to note that Linux can be a way to avoid AI, but doesn't have to be. If you flip the headline around it almost implies that people who do want AI would be missing out by using Linux, but that's not true at all: instead, the reality is that Linux is still better for them, too, because you could install all the same kind of functionality if you wanted, but it would be wholly under your control, not Microsoft's.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I finally switched to Linux and I couldn't be happier. I can't believe I put up with microsofts garbage for so damn long.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

What happens when I, a potential new Linux user, need to search for how to make something work on Linux and thanks to SEO and AI driven/created search results I can't find the solution?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

how to do <objective> lemmy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Well you already know how to find this place, so find a Linux-themed instance and either ask your question or better yet post a "guide" telling people to resolve your problem by doing some wrong method you've already tried so that someone else calls you an idiot and posts the correct answer out of spite.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

"The Year Of Linux on Desktops". Been hearing this for decades, but it might actually be happening. What I'm feeling now is the same thing I felt when Mozilla originally split Firefox out, and made the first real competition to corporate browsers as a free product. People don't want all this bullshit, and want to retain control over the machines they are working on. Seems a lot more people are interested in FOSS environments now just to avoid all the other BS they hate getting shoveled at them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (28 children)

“The Year Of Linux on Desktops”. Been hearing this for decades, but it might actually be happening.

Been hearing this for decades.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Linux may be the best way to avoid the <insert dystopian corporate feature> nightmare

Always has been

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm convinced that Linux' mere presence has already stymied the development of the worst possible technocractic nightmare. I shudder to think of the thick tech-chains that would bind us if there was not an anchor/reference point... or if there was not even the small contingent that knows what it is like to use a liberating platform.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I don't want to avoid it. I just want it locally

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