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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Christ they're dumb. Here is a golden opportunity to protect your business and build great PR.

As everyone else is pushing people back to the office, be the champion we're all looking for, run the studies, offer incentives, anything to prove that working remotely is a viable alternative in a modern world.

Then, expand the use cases, it's not just WFH, but working on-site (for companies with manufacturing in different locations), working on the move for managers, emergency preparedness, and, of course, webinar/training.

It's not rocket science, just marketing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Quite often, you come up with great ideas, but when we are all on Zoom, it's really hard," Yuan said, according to Insider. "We cannot have a great conversation. We cannot debate each other well because everyone tends to be very friendly when you join a Zoom call."

Wow, CEO calling their own product shit. Cool.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

He's not even raising good points.

We cannot debate each other well because everyone tends to be very friendly when you join a Zoom call

Jesus Christ the idiot hasn't even identified the actual problem with his product. Namely being that everyone talks over each with no dynamic volume scaling.

People have made better products by themselves in an afternoon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Well, maybe they should take a page from the open source book and use text as a medium more often.

If you want collaboration, use a chat room software with sub threads, like Slack. If you want announcements, email works, or a common chat room. If you want to present something, use a video meeting.

So it sounds like the CEO doesn't know how remote work actually should work. Which means they need to do more of it so they can effectively market their product.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine being so short sighted as to lambast the main selling point of your own product to the world.

If even Zoom won't use their own product, how are they supposed to persuade other people to?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don’t have to persuade anyone anymore. There’s too much inertia built up behind them.

Much more concerning is his whining that people are “too nice.”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think Zoom really has much of a moat surrounding it. Slack, Google, Microsoft, and others offer alternatives that are about as good or better (often for free if you use their chat offering). They sprang into popularity from nothing around 2018 due to being just a little more stable and reliable than the competition, and someone could take their place just as easily.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed on all points. They just happened to be the new shiny when the shit hit the fan, and they got lucky. There are plenty of good alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd tell you not to kink shame the guy, but sounds like he's got a shame kink anyways, so keep at it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

LOL! Indeed

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Zoom CEO says that the only product his company sells is crap.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Translation from BBB (business buzzword bullshit) to English:

CEO wants to look out on his domain and see his minions hard a work in the cube farm. He loves coming to work (because he does not have punch a clock) and want warm bodies to lecture to.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That and they like sitting in their big castle, which they can only justify to shareholders by having the flinkies work there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Cube farm? I think you misspelled "open concept indoor concrete field".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

If debate is hindered, it's the corporate culture the bosses fostered. Oops!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? Remote work is awesome. It can be highly productive and liberating. The CEO of Zoom comes across as the most confounding and paradoxical Luddite. I'm so confused.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, if I was a board member, I'd be asking for his resignation. Zoom's primary activity at this point is running studies to prove remote work is better. That's it, that's the business they're in.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

CEO tries to kill off own company...more at 5!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No-one really know where Zoom comes from. It just popped up during the pandemic. Since the pandemic is over, Zoom will disappear sooner or later.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Zoom was used pre pandemic by most big tech companies. It just so happened that the pandemic accelerated their success in the world outside the tech comps. However now I try to avoid them even more, already was a bad rep when they had no security so anyone else could join sessions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Zooming off

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For anyone that doesn't get how incredibly stupid this is, imagine Coca-Cola mandates all its workers to drink Pepsi.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nah.

Imagine Coca-Coca demanding its workers stop drinking coke because it’s unhealthy and tastes bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This. But you get some Pepsi occasionally.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Some people drink Pepsi. Some people drink Coke. The wacky morning DJ says democracy's a joke.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

And science says that work from home improves productivity, workers health and motivation. Well CEO doesn't mean you're smart.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I think this is increasingly typical of the C-suite types in most corporations. They are people whose primary credentials are having wealth, connections, and a business degree. They did not start the businesses they run and usually did not work in them previously. So they know almost nothing about the workings of their company, its products, or its market and are arrogant enough to think none of that matters.

CEOs used to earn at least some of their higher salaries by providing long-term strategy and making large scale decisions. Now they just follow advice from the next level down, push for greater short-term profits, and jump to another company when the consequences of their shortcuts and bad decisions start to become obvious to their stockholders. They are mercenaries who are given command of someone else's army and win battles by not caring how many soldiers they lose in the process.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Seems like somebody is taking a page out of Gerald Ratner's playbook.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We know that's not true. They know that's not true. But lying for short term gain and corporations go together like peas and carrots.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

/leopardatemyface

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Pffft. Schmuck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

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