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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

But the times are not tougher by themselves, they become tougher because of capitalism itself. So it was Homelander all along

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"I'm the natural evolution of unchecked you."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (26 children)

Even checked Capitalism results in fascism, as Capitalism is entirely unsustainable and eventually results in the crisis that enables the rise of fascism.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I actually watches the first season of the boys recently. Killer show. Its stunning that any real person could have ever looked up to Homelander in any capacity.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Oh, believe it or not, that gets even worse! Some people are insane.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More like fascism is just what comes next after late stage capitalism if it makes it that far.

Don’t worry, feudalism is still the end game.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm looking forward to being called Dennis and working in the mud all day ranting about different governments.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

From the peanut gallery, aka me..... Most business are run under a more fascist principle.

I'm not talking about how the business operates in the market, or whatever.... I'm talking about internal organizational behaviour.

Things are often very "my way or the highway", with management, owners, etc.

Of course, not all businesses, but most follow some fairly fascist ideologies. They'll tell you where to be, what to bring, what to do, when to stop... And hey, where are your papers? .... I mean... Where is your company issued identification card?

They'll watch what you're doing, monitor and surveil you as much as they are legally allowed, govern every moment that they can, of every day you're working there.

Capitalism and the pursuit of profit is their objective, the governance is fascist.

Business leaders engage in fascism.

.... Why are we surprised that this brain rot is leaking out into actual politics? Trump is literally known for running businesses.... Mostly into the ground/bankruptcy, but still. His whole thing is him being the boss. The ruler and Lord dictator over his tiny island. How are we so surprised that he's a fascist? Shocked picachu

The best move the Nazis made was convincing everyone that yeah, the Nazis lost and are gone forever.... They're literally hiding in plain sight.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It should be of little surprise (and much more widespread knowledge) that just about everyone with money in the 1930s financially supported the actual Nazi party, including but not limited to Henry Ford and George W Bush's grandfather.

I actually disagree with the meme; capitalism is always fascism, just sometimes has a better PR team.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

sometimes with a better PR team

Which is a big thing in The Boys. The company and The Seven™ are all about that PR.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's not what fascism is. Fascism isn't "when there are shitty strict rules". In fact, classical fascism is a (failed) class collaborationist ideology where the state was supposed to mediate between interest groups of workers and bosses. protip: it didn't. workers got screwed. (see corporatism, from the root word corpus, not corporation). Nazism didn't do any of that but even they had their own garbage state-run labor front.

But the point being, those business are beyond even fascism. It's straight-up pure raw capitalist dictatorship.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Fun fact: The nowadays conservative (and IMO right leaning) German CDU has originally considered capitalism to be the reason for outbreak for WW2. They wanted to form a new Christian Socialism, which would've united Christian ideals with a socialistic (not marxistic) economy. The so-called Kölner Erklärung was written in 1945 as a basic idea for where Germany should head from perspective of the CDU.

These ideas didn't last for long and got replaced by a conservative fiscal policy. But it is good to keep in mind that even in the CDU there were people who recognized that capitalism ultimately has a strong tendency to fuel fascism. In Nazi Germany, the main capitalists worked closely with the NSDAP - Krupp, Bosch, Hugo Boss (who famously designed the Nazi uniforms), Volkswagen were all lead by rich capitalists who saw (and gained) profit by the actions of the Nazis. It makes me sad that even the SPD, the so-called Social Democratic Party, long forgot what it means to fight for socialism and equality, and instead embraces neoliberalism with a touch of social politics.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

"Who are you?"

"I'm you if Batman didn't have a ring what makes you a removed ass"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

superman would obliterate homelander

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (17 children)

Fascism is simply Capitalism when the Capitalists succeed enough

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not entirely.

Germany wasn't having a very successful economy when Nazism started.

Nor did Italy or Spain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That relies on the assumption that what's good for the economy is good for the capitalists, they always make sure that capitalism occasionally goes up in flames to take advantage of social unrest.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

In fact, fascism often gains support from middle class desperation, with the blessing of the booj who prefer it over communism (which tends to rise from the lower classes during similar times of desperation)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Dont forget the red scare whenever capitalism even thinks about faltering to remind us all of the evils of just giving hungry people food or letting them see a doctor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Surely it was a tough pick between using Superman or Captain America in the top panel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This meme's got the spirit, but not a great visual metaphor

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

That's so accurate.

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