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Trump Shooter Crooks Wasn’t on Rifle Team or Bullied, According to School
(www.thedailybeast.com)
My high school would have said I wasn't bullied. They'd be lying.
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Lying implies intent. They likely would just be wrong.
Oh please, look at that year book photo again and tell me seriously that he wasn't bullied.
"School says he wasn't bullied" no shit. Guy could get beaten right in front of the principal and they'd claim nothing happened lmao
He'd be suspended or expelled for "participating in a fight"
My school would claim I was never bullied, too, and it would be a lie.
Exactly. Especially if the administration was bully-friendly, which they often are. My daughter was so bullied at her middle school that we ended up having to take her out and put her in online school because the administration didn't give a shit. The one time we went so apoplectic that they were forced to act, they made the bullies apologize to her and her apologize to the bullies. Which, of course, made things worse.
One of my daughter's best friends is still in that school and he is trans. Some girl was harassing him and being incredibly bigoted to him and he finally turned around and slapped her for it. Guess which one of them got suspended and which one wasn't even finger-wagged at? Hint: it wasn't the girl that got suspended.
Ok, I'm curious. I get that the suspension was wrong and all......but did the girl ever bother him again? I will stand by my belief that the way you stop a bully, is to punch a bully in the mouth. Bullys bully because they feel they can get away with bullying without consequence. Present them an immediate cause and effect consequence, and they stop.
I don't see how schools don't realize this.
I don't have the answer to that, but daughter never told me and she's doing some video chat thing with friends right now, so I don't want to bug her about it. I hope that stopped it for good from at least that girl.
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To be fair, the school would cover its ass immediately and deny any bullying claims if he was.
Didn't his classmates say he was an outcast or bullied? A classmate would have more insight than some school official.
Some have. Some have said otherwise. The truth isn’t as clear yet about who he was
If some people say person X was bullied and some people say a person X wasn't bullied. I'll probably believe person X was bullied.
If you say they were bullied (and you're not a liar) you only had to have seen it happen once. If you say they weren't bullied either you a) never saw it happen or b) you're always watching and it didn't happen
A) is possible because most people don't see all bullying, but it's an overbroad statement B) is functionally impossible.
I'm also more likely to believe he was bullied because of the actual video that was posted where a classmate was pulling on his pant legs when Crooks didn't want them to.
EDIT: fixed the link, I hope
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Quick, get rid of the paperwork. Adam, where is the effing shredder. Bully? Nonsense. Never happened.
Of course thats the story coming from covering your ass high,
For the downvoters, schools aren't to be considered entirely objective on bullying on their watch.
There was a documentary from a few years back the covered the subject. Bully
Every report I’ve seen said he failed to make the tea so I don’t know where the fake fact came from that he was on it, but this is the first time I have read he wasn’t picked on.
To be fair, I don't think we can rely on a school self-reporting bullying.
There is no bullying in hi-school-sai.
Well yeah if he was on the rifle team, I'd imagine he'd have had better aim.
It's a 6" target at 147 yards with iron sights... With probably max adrenaline as well. Only missed by a couple inches
Give the kid some credit where it's due. It was pretty fucking close
"Crooks was well within that range when he opened fire on Trump Saturday from about 135 meters (147 yards) from where Trump was speaking"
Still a long shot but not as bad as 400 yards. 400 yards with iron sights would be almost impossible. 147 would still be hard but not impossible with practice. Not that this dude has practice and a scope would be cheap and infinitely easier.
I'll edit for clarity. Thank you for the correction
No because a good Rifleman wouldn't have aimed at the head.
I mean... people say this. But a head shot with normal ammunition would be the only way to ensure a kill on a target that could potentially be wearing body armor.
I don't condone what he did, violence of this kind is never the answer. But speaking on the planning of a good marksman I would bet with this setup they would have gone for a head shot. A good marksman would never be in this situation though...
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Are rifle teams common in high schools? I mean I know that sport shooting is a thing, but I never heard of a high school with a rifle team. I went to high school in WA state.
A high school rifle team? What the what?
Yeah, it's a thing.
Rifle teams, trap shooting teams are not all that uncommon, all funded by your friends in the NRA.
The Olympics have shooting in both the biathlon (rifle) and trap shooting so it's not as bizarre as some US gun things.
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I know shooting sports in schools used to be a thing, but figured after Columbine that those programs were all dropped and didn't exist anymore. Gunfire near a school is no longer about academic competitions, but something tragic and far too common.
Although to be fair, I have never heard of a school rifle team in part because there has been no tragedy associated with one so far.
Just regular 'ol American things...
I don't know, I wouldn't be shocked if Swiss schools had rifle teams. Biathlon teams, in fact.
Why the fuck is there a rifle team in school?????
Sports shooting is incredibly popular at the high school and collegiate level in the US.
It's an olympic sport?
Same reason the track and field team throws the javelin and shotput.
What? Are you serious? To teach kids how to shoot guns. Because it's America. Are you telling me you don't want a bunch of hormonal teenagers with undeveloped emotional cortex's to be handling and comfortable with guns??? Well how else are we going to shoot each other in a crowded public environment........you know the more I say this outloud the more I see your point.
Yes, kids should be taught about guns. Nothing in depth, not unless they demonstrate basic safety skills and wish to pursue the subject. But a 10-minute mandated lecture ain't gonna get it.
Took my 8 and 11-yo shooting for the first time on Spring Break. We have a camp in the swamp so it's a safe and calm environment, no gunshot noise, focused instruction. Predictably, their mom shat kittens.
Know what? Now they have a feel for what guns are about, and that includes lethality. Previously, their ideas all came from Hollywood. I also showed them some of mine that bear an unfortunate resemblance to toys. Speaking of...
We can teach out kids to never, ever, on pain of beating to touch a gun. But we can't helicopter them for life. What if some idiot kid pulls out his dad's super cool pistol to show off? "It's all good. It's not loaded." or "It's not a real gun." First thing I taught them (behind the basic rules) was how to recognize someone being dangerous, when to get the hell away from that person.
And the cherry on top? I've taken the mystery away, removed the forbidden fruit. Now that they can take it or leave it, they somewhat ambivalent. My daughter likes to take a shot or three and hang out helping reload. My son loves his little .22, but no big deal if we forget it at home.
I love that in the current age if someone isn't blasting every aspect of their life onto social media we have no idea what to do with them.
I don't think small school clubs usually keep detailed long-term records, so that's not saying much
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