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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who the fuck is panicking? I'm relieved.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The people whose talking heads are telling them to panic are panicking

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The right is in a panic and pushing this "questionable legality" and "it's too late to change their candidate" nonsense. They are publicly running on the issues of banning abortion, putting tariffs on everything coming into the country, and mass deportation of "illegals" that are taking "Hispanic, Black, and union" jobs at record rates. That last part of which I don't know how the media hasn't called it out for being overtly racist and complete bullshit. Yet they let it slide at the debate, because they were all racing to write about Biden, and then again at the RNC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I've wondered what all of the people in lifted trucks with "fuck Biden" flags will do now, and how long they'll continue to fly them

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not here, but I've seen a lot of people chiming in who seem torn up/devastated that Biden dropped out. If they're as convinced that we're all screwed now as I was convinced that we were screwed with Biden staying in I can understand their feelings. I just hope that I've assessed the situation better than they have. I, like you, found a bit of hope today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The polls were pretty damning. I wouldn't worry that it was the wrong move. Joe had some pretty heavy baggage that's now off the plane.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

People spent the entire year defending that his brain certainly wasn't diseased enough for him to drop out and it's totally the right move to keep him cause at least he's barely conscious. Give time, we gotta at least wait for the weekend to end for the new programming directives to kick in.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How could he even have been on any ballots yet when he hadn't even been officially nominated?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's sort of the point - this hesitancy was all bullshit.

The fact that the convention is so late does mean we'll have to really scramble after it, though (and the convention is so late because of Biden's specific request).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The UK had an entire vote in just 6 weeks.

Our information apparatus (print, TV, social media, etc al) is ... Far superior to theirs, in terms of efficiency (not in terms of human dignity, relax, I am aware).

I feel like folks are forgetting just how addicted to information we all are, and how easy it is to get the whole fucking country talking about the same thing at the same time.

Trust me, the advertising budget for Squid Games ain't shit next to the DNC war chest.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are states that require candidates to register by a date that is often before the nominating conventions. Those states have always passed one-time exceptions when that occurs. If they choose not to in this case, using the last minute change as political cover, it could be a legal grey area, and who knows how it would play out with today's judicial system.

On the other hand, those are red states that a Democrat wouldn't win anyways.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

…a situation where the electoral college is actually an advantage against election manipulation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Technically afaik the election institutions don't care about parties, they care about the individual running. Remember the whole system was set up with the idea/hope that parties don't exist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Well that was then. Presently if you're not the nominee from a party which received a minimum threshold of votes in the preceding election you have to get a bunch of signatures from the voters to be put on the ballot. So since the Democratic party has.met the threshold of votes in prior elections in all states their nominee will be on the ballots but they haven't nominated anyone yet.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

I’m down to vote for who the fuck ever can beat Trump. I honestly don’t care at this point as long as Project 2025 and Trump are stopped. FAR too many people are going to be hurt by that and I’ll do whatever it takes to see that not happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

My question is if someone other than Harris wins the nomination, can Harris give over the elections funds? Were those funds donated to the Dems or to Biden/Harris specifically? Would there be legal donation issues to give them to someone else?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I think the money can then be added into a PAC like "The Biden/Harris PAC For A Better Tomorrow" or some shit. Then, that PAC can be used to fund another candidate. Not 100% sure on it, but that's my mildly educated guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm a random person but my understanding was that legally the funds belong to the Biden/Harris campaign, now owned by Harris. I think moving that money between campaign funds is not permitted. Maybe some unprecedented swap where Harris remains VP would work.

Edit: i actually researched this, LegalEagle has a good video on it.

In short donations to DNC are safe, but the campaign committee for B/H would need to go into a super PAC and would face litigation risks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Oh boy she'd like that I'm sure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

What I am scared of: there is no legal ground to stop a harris ticket, and the Supreme Court has a history of decisions without legal ground helping the gop

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Vermine Supreme 2024! I want my pony!