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Almost like God isn't real and was made up by humans to control people.

If you read the old testament in particular, god never denies the existence of other gods, only that he's the best one. Yahweh was actually just one god in an ancient pre Jewish pantheon. He was like Dionysus, a god of harvest and wine and rebirth. Different tribes had different chief gods, but all accepted the existence of the others. Just happened over time that the people who worshipped Yahweh were the only ones left and it became a monotheistic religion.

I'm sure back in the day, those gods were more similar to Greek gods, flawed and monstrous, and entities to fear. That's why the old testament god is such a psychopath.

For sloth, the dude worked for one week and didn't do squat after that.

Based.

Funny thing - no god(s) have ever punished a single person for any of those transgressions - only people do.

Note that the seven deadly sin isn't present in the bible, and is a later addition.

Exmo take: there are divine attributes to each sin.

Sloth is to be meek and humble.

It is good to healthfully "lust" towards your lawfully wed spouce.

Take pride in your work, and family.

Be gluttonous in your education and church studies.

Be envious of God's attention by doing good acts.

There is a righteous wrath in terms of self defense and protecting others from wrongdoing.

And greed, well you gotta be wealthy in order to afford giving God a nice juicy tithe. Also gotta be self sufficient.

There's a bunch of mental gymnastics involved but that's from when I was a "good mormon boy."

God created hell so we can one day drag his psychotic ass there.

As far as I know these sins are only sins for mortals. For example pride is wrong because you worship yourself instead of God. Sloth is wrong because it would be your job to better the world, not God's and so on.

Not defending god here but afaik the 7 deadly sins come from the divine comedy

Edit: It appears I was mistaken. They are just not directly mentioned in the bible.

Rules for thee but not for me

Envy is an interesting one, I think this is usually based primarily on the 'Golden Calf' story.

There's a bit of context that makes that story much more interesting. The stories that eventually led to what we think of as the christian god depict god as a bull. It brings up the possibility that the story wasn't calling out against worshipping other gods but instead a warning against reverting back to old ways, changes how you approach the story.

Historical evidence there is really all over the place though, there's a LOT of other interpretations and possibilities.

You know the sins aren't really like that in the original text and I've taken to thinking this is just a collection of rules to help make a more productive second class work force.

Don't be sitting around when you could be working and don't think that just because you did the work you can claim to own it.
Don't be wanting more or better either. And if you eat to much you will forget the hunger that pushes you to keep working.
Don't fight back and be thankful for what you get and nothing else.

I mean I get it sometimes the work needs to get done but christianity feels weaponized as a stick with a single carrot that you can never get to have cause it's been made up by the people getting beaten by the stick.
I don't want to be part of the chorus that exists eternal to praise Yahweh and nothing else.

I know Anon is, uh, joking and we shouldn't use a 4chan greentext for real discussion, but the wrath and envy points are why I'm more inclined to believe the Gnostic version of Christianity over the others. It's super weird and telling that the Judeo-Christian God is extremely jealous.

Well, it was never implied that God was supposed to be subject to the same commandments. The whole religion kind of requires holding God above one's self and others as well, as do many religions with creator gods. It doesn't really work if God is supposed to equal to us and subject to the same constraints, they're supposed by design to be omniscient and omnipotent and perfect and that's why we're supposed to trust in them and all their dictates if we want to 'saved'.

It's not a particularly remarkable insight or cutting blow to point out that God doesn't follow their own rules since everybody knows that including the devout and they think it's a good thing. I'd hazard a guess that the ability to accept this so readily probably explains a lot about overlap between strength of religious belief and embrace of dictators who also don't model their own edicts.

DemiURGE to kill.. rising...

Pride, wrath, envy, and sloth are correct. The others are a bit of a stretch.