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[–] [email protected] 164 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

In it, Walz argues that the lessons of the “Jewish Holocaust” should be taught “in the greater context of human rights abuses,” rather than as a unique historical anomaly or as part of a larger unit on World War II. “To exclude other acts of genocide severely limited students’ ability to synthesize the lessons of the Holocaust and the ability to apply them elsewhere,” he wrote.

What an antisemite, he wants people to learn so such acts of horror never happen again.

Edit: Obviously, I am being sarcastic, I totally agree with Walz.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree with Walz here, the Holocaust was not unique in the sense that genocide is an ongoing feature of human history and events. I also agree with the dude elsewhere in this thread that the Holocaust was unique among genocides, because it was the first industrial genocide. That doesn't make it worse; we don't need to play victim olympics. In the grand scheme of things, Walz certainly should not be called antisemitic for saying that we shouldn't hyperfocus on the Holocaust at the expense of understanding the prevalence of genocide in general, and we should realize the reason he's being called antisemitic is because, right now, it benefits Israel to derail any broader discussion on the nature of genocide.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It wasn't even the only genocide in WW2.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

*antisemite

I approve of your sarcasm though.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This was actually a discussion I was in on the Marvel movies of all things. They updated Iron Man's origin by moving it from Vietnam to the Middle East, and the question then became "Well, how do you update Magneto's origin without the Holocaust?" and I was like "There's always another genocide... Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia... pick one."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My thought was you make him a black South African who lost his family to apartheid related violence.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I want young Rohingya Magneto.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You don't even have to leave WW2 to find another genocide in China.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It wasn't unique, it wasn't a "one off". The unique framing appeals to conservatives as it feeds into exceptionalism and impunity. "We're special!" It's those people who only care about stuff when it happens to them. Same as with abortions and "The only moral abortion is my abortion".

Fundamentally, this is evidence of the failure to generalize learning (what learning is for), a grand failure of intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're really reaching for some material, aren't they?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Well they tried trashing him for providing tampons to women in need.

Then for being a retired military vet.

Then for making a joke about ladders.

So yeah, they're really running out of stuff it would seem.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is HORRIBLE! Look at that ANTISEMITE!

-People who Support Nazis and think anyone who is against Genocide is Antisemitic!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It's honestly kinda sad because during the same time period the Japanese were arguably being worse to the Chinese. Even at the same time period the holocaust wasn't unique.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Genocide isn't unique...walz is right

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Nope! Humanity has a hell of a history of it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The important thing to me here is that he has a master's degree and it took on tough subject matter with a larger perspective of how humanity needs to learn to no repeat this horrible actions of its past. He just keeps getting more awesome.

Harris/Walz 2024!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I commented this elsewhere too, but dude took this expertise with a tough subject and shared it well with the high schoolers he taught: Tim Walz’s Class Project on the Holocaust Draws New Attention Online https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/09/us/politics/tim-walz-holocaust-class-rwanda-genocide.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Ck4.FpW4.05czkX9J5r9u

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not even unique to WW2. The Japanese killed somewhere between 3 and 10 million Chinese civilians, burning some of them alive. If that range sounds insane, it's because it is. Some estimates put the number of civiians killed by the Japanese as high as 20 million. Wikipedia.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He is right it wasn’t. Hitler was emulating past settler colonial projects. He was inspired by how the indigenous peoples of North America were reduced to only tens of thousands and forced to live in reservations. It is just that no one cared until it happened in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is going to annoy the Turks too.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

Russians killed a lot of ethnic groups some of them completely.

So did we

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Another case of the idiot right wing shunning facts or spinning them into non-facts. They can't deal in facts so they must pollute factual information down to their level where they're comfortable with the lie they've created.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah, this one doesn't hold water either... I'm sure he kicked a dog or something at some point. I'm gonna hold out for that one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Anybody got a master's degree in boys that cry wolf? Hell at this point you'll be called antisemitic for saying you prefer Robertson screwdrivers to Torx.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

And back in the real world, he went on to use that critical thinking in classroom assignments, helping students understand actions and attitudes that lead to genocide: Tim Walz’s Class Project on the Holocaust Draws New Attention Online https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/09/us/politics/tim-walz-holocaust-class-rwanda-genocide.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Ck4.FpW4.05czkX9J5r9u

Tldr, in one of his geography classes, Walz taught his class about how violence rises, class voted on what country they thought likely to deal with that kind of violence, like a year later the Rwanda genocide began.