Aww poor babies. Where was their outrage when Ukrainian civilians were killed by Russia's use of cluster bombs?
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Come on now, let's be fair: I'm sure Russian military has killed plenty of journalists too!
Heck, bet he wasn’t even killed by US cluster bombs. Just propaganda.
Oh no, the consequences of my actions!
Did you miss the part where it says the victim was a reporter?
Did you miss the part where he voluntarily went to an active battlefield as part of a violent invading force?
With a pen and paper.
To spew Putin’s propaganda
Again, the same thing that Russia could say about western/Ukrainian journalists. Hence the need to agree not to kill journalists.
The difference is, Russia is lying.
About what?
- Gestures broadly at Ukraine *
Everything!
This is not a relevant point.
I disagree
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Sorry... just for the record - why was there a Russian war reporter in Ukraine again? Could it perhaps have anything to do with that war Russia caused in Ukraine? Someone please jog my memory for me.
"You're not allowed to attack us if we have a journalist with us. That's the rules. Now don't mind us while we use civilians as target practice." - Russia
Reporters in Russia are propagandists. There is no press freedom in that country, so if you work as a reporter, you are not fulfilling the role of a journalist, but a state sanctioned propagandist.
A Russian reporter in Ukraine might as well be a part of the armed forces.
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These misanthropic comments are disgusting.
CNN* is an obvious US propaganda channel and yet we were all outraged when WikiLeaks revealed that US helicopter pilots gunned down fucking journalists in Iraq.
There are few rules in war.
You do not attack hospitals, first aid responders and journalists, for fucks sake. I don't give a fuck whose "side" this journalist belongs to. They are there to provide information of a battle field that would otherwise be lost.
When Russia attacked a hospital some time in 2022 after the war started, I was disgusted.
What has happened to you people. wtf.
- this is an example. I am not trying to bring a "muh but US is doing propaganda too" bullshit take in here.
I'm fairly certain the same people would be outraged at reports of Russia killing civilians. Apparently Russian civilians, and journalists at that, don't count.
Then they pretend shock when it is highlighted that dehumanising humans is part and parcel of fascism.
One could be forgiven for thinking that outrage over Russian war crimes is disguised happiness at yet another 'justification' for prolonging the war; it's clearly not motivated by a wish for ending the suffering.
Apparently Russian civilians, and journalists at that, don’t count.
Disgustingly, I have definitely heard people make that case with a straight face, look at all the people celebrating a Russian civilian being killed by a shark. They only care about warcrimes from The Other Team.
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Imagine breaking a treaty, invading a country, starting a war, using cluster bombs and then getting angry at the other guy for defending his country with cluster bombs.
Then fucking leave Russia. Stop hurting yourself for no reason.
The Tankies here are hilarious.
The "reporter" worked for RIA, a state-owned news agency. He was a propagandist, not a reporter.
There's no evidence he was killed by cluster munitions beyond Russia's statement. We've seen the accuracy of those from the beginning.
This is a consequence of Russia's own actions. They're to blame for all of this.
I see one comment kind of supporting the Russian reporter, and only about the tone of the comments. That's it. I really don't see anyone in this comment section really supporting Russia here.
I 100% agree that this is Russia's own fault. Don't put non-soldiers next to soldiers actively fighting in a war, because there's a good chance they'll be hit by enemy munitions.
They found a copy of Sims 3 along with a letter signed "Illegible" near the body so it had to be the Ukrainians.
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Oh no…. Anyway.
Russian telegram channels reported without proof the death may be attributed to the way they conduct a documentation.
They group up with multiple other people, including soldiers, and stay as a group continuously. This is to control that nothing gets shown which should not be visible and have a tight control.
Apart from the lacking proof I am sceptical this would be required as this news agency is under full Kremlin control, but rational reasoning isn't required for this authoritarian government.
It's called 'embedding' journalists. It's a real problem.
Edit: struggling to understand why this would be down voted. I'm not making any kind of value claim. It's a matter of law that journalists who ride with soldiers are 'embedded' and the advice is not to do it because it's dangerous and makes things more dangerous for other journalists.
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