Samsung phones are about 50% bloatware and 50% bad Android Software nowadays.
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Had Samsungs for 10 years watching them slowly get worse and worse. Switched to a Pixel last year and couldn't be happier.
Same, cant stand Samsung's bloated software not that pixel is perfect in this regard but miles better.
Just wondering because I don't buy hardware I don't need so I'm still using a Note 10+. Not defending a corporation at all here just genuinely want to better my choices as a consumer:
Besides the removable Samsung branded apps that I was able to just remove, have they started adding addtional bloatware with messures to restrict removal in the more recent device categories?
See a lot of bloatware being mentioned, but noones pointing to specifics. Sorry to pick your comment to reply to, seeing theres plenty. Hoping other people can chime in as well.
Same, but I switched to an iPhone. It was an annoying adjustment for a few months but now I’d never go back. Great hardware, but Samsung’s software is an almost comical mess, and they seem to have zero awareness of how bad they are at it.
Here I am, on my first Samsung ever, being happy that stuff just works again. (like it did on my Huawei, long, long ago)
Ymmv.
The rule of thumb for comments like OP's is that either they've last used a Samsung phone back in TouchWiz days and still think that the software and hardware are the same, or they've never used a Samsung phone and just hopped on the Samsung-hating bandwagon for internet points.
Either way screams of Pixel fanboyism and gatekeeping
I am using a Samsung right now, I've been using Samsungs since I used smartphones. And that's way too long, because the bloatware got worse every time I got a new one. I will use this until breaks, but as things stand, I won't get another Samsung.
I had the Samsung Note 2 back in the day. I installed a custom bootloader and OS that worked fantastically. I had GPS issues, and all the guides I read said I have to reinstall Samsung's OS, get a GPS fix, then reinstall my custom OS.
I made the mistake of installing a newer version of the Samsung OS which installed Knox and locked down my bootloader. I was now locked into an old, insecure Android version with no possibility of ever upgrading because Samsung abandoned it.
From that day on, I vowed never to buy another Samsung product again. Screw them and their anti-choice bullshit.
Yeah Samsung sucks. I am never going to leave Android so if I want a decent lower-midrange phone I have to stick with Motorola.
Agree I have a Samsung phone and hate the damn intrusive Samsung bloatware. I'm just going to buy a Google phone next time to get Android unadulterated. Though people still have their complaints with those Pixel phones and they're more expensive. Well at least maybe then I can tolerate my phone instead of downright loathe it.
Pixels are actually quite worth it, they work like a clockwork, soft and hardware are good and the cameras are up to standard. Its worth the money (don't buy on release)
Samsung pissed me off massively by having a pre installed Facebook app that cant be removed...
I've had Samsung phones for years and their software on my current phone has had me thinking I might switch to an iPhone whenever I upgrade (hopefully not soon), so, yeah. It was not this bad 10 years ago.
Maybe mine have less bloat because I'm in Australia, maybe I don't consider some of the apps to be bloat, not sure - but I've had Samsung's since the S2 and I've always been content with my phones.
I have definitely found the software to be improved over the years, and I love that I can customise the colours of every element down to hyperlinks in my text messages, all using their Theme Park app from their funny little app store. They also have a few other decent apps to change around the notification bar icons and things like that.
I'll definitely be sticking with Samsung as long as all of these things keep going in a happy direction.
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That's extremely surprising considering how much Samsung has a hold over SK
My first thought was this was a punk thing, like, if you want to think of yourself as a bit rebellious yoi can buy the American phone instead of the phone made by the company that owns your nation.
That would make sense
Young Koreans favor whatever is new and cool from year to year. One year I was there everyone had iDevices, a couple years later it was Samsungs. Trendiness with electronics is a big thing.
Look at the size 10% bar is the 40-49 graph. Then the 6% bars in the 50-59 graph. Then look at the size of the 9% bar in the 60-69 graph. And then the Other bar (8%) in the 70+ graph.
Then go backup and look at the LG and Other bars (8% total) in the top graph. Whoever made this graphic is either intentionally misleading or just plain dumb.
Why not both
Yea, it's strange - top to bottom rows sum up to 94, 100, 92, 94, 100, 100
I've had Samsung for around nine years. The thing that kept me married to them was the SD card slot. Now that it's gone, after my Note 10+ stops getting updates, I'll be looking at something else. I have the Samsung watch, buds and tablet but I'm assuming they'll work with a pixle if that's what I land on. I like the Samsung nearby share but that's such a small thing and doesn't keep brand loyalty. Otherwise, what do they offer that say the pixle doesn't?
It's basically the reason I'm using a mid-range Samsung. But they got rid of the headphone jack on the last generation A-series and it's only a matter of time before the SD card disappears too. Gonna look elsewhere for me next upgrade
Galaxy S10 with 128GB internal & 256GB microSD. Play anything from the entire music collection with the aux port in the car. Frequently listen to podcasts with bone conduction headphones. Couldn't be happier with a pocket computer.
I'm just hoping either Fairphone irons out it's kinks or legislation catches up with removable batteries and locked-down operating systems. I'm tired of feeling like I'm owning a device just until the manufacturer decides to turn it into e-waste.
I agree with you. One thing that keeps me with Samsung though is Dex. Everything else is replaceable with a time adjustment, but Dex is pretty big for me and other phones don't have it... Yet.
There was a time where Samsung flagships had features that iPhone didn't. Samsung slowly stripped their phones of these features.
If you don't need an android platform, and aren't after a foldable, there's a lot less of an argument to be made to be on Samsung these days.
And the bloatware got insane. At least let me remove the shit I don't want, Samsung.
I've used samsung for all of my smartphones until my latest (when I switched to oneplus), but it's still an android phone. No way would I switch to ultra-locked-down apple.
Ye oneplus is great you just need a dns to block those chinese queries over vpn for example because it wont allow you to change the dns manually. (op8)
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A bit weird to see LG in the charts (given that they're out of the smartphone industry now) and yet none of the other big manufacturers (Xiaomi, Huawei, Google).
I believe LG is also a South Korean company compared to the Chinese ones you mentioned so maybe there is a little patriotic incentive for LG over there.
The brands you mentioned aren't widely available in Korea. Since LG left the market, all the carriers, to my knowledge, only offer Apple or Samsung devices.
Source: I've lived in SoKo for a long time.
Thanks for the insight. Is what you're saying that there you can only buy a phone through a carrier?
You can buy unlocked phones of other brands like Google or Xiaomi on the Korean equivalent of Amazon (Coupang), but they're substantially more expensive. I'd bet you can get Chinese brands at the little mom and pop shops that cater to Chinese students and immigrants.
Not much of a surprise, at least to me. Granted, my knowledge of the place is limited, but from what I've heard they really care about symbols of status (Fancy watches, jewelry, and, of course, expensive phones). Add that to the fact that kids nowdays aren't as patriotic (a good thing imo) and care less about local brands and the fact that tech literacy is not great either... Well it puts thing in perspective.
You seem to be pretty judgmental of something you admit you know little about.
Yeah, sorry if I came out harsh. In all honesty I am just frustrated by the incredible growth of Apple. It really confuses me how with such a tight ecosystem and anti-consumer practices they have managed to attain such mindshare that it's not even funny. And I am saying all that despite this very comment being sent out of an iPhone.
I think I was done with Samsung as a phone brand when the photos app asked me to sign in, rate it and send feedback. So much bloatware.
Probably doesn’t help the perception of high end status.
wow
The majority of youngsters will always pick a fashion brand (apple). However, the majority of them cannot afford it.
In its analysis, the survey credited iPhone's appeal among young people to Apple's premium branding – for the same storage size, an iPhone 14 (128GB) costs 1,250,000 won ($989) compared to the Galaxy S23's 1,150,000 won. Introduction of Apple Pay, Apple’s mobile payment service, to Korea earlier this year was cited as another contributing factor.
According to the article, cost is not a factor in their choice as they nearly cost the same.
Would be interesting to see this lined up to other countries (US in particular)
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