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Detroit man steals 800 gallons using Bluetooth to hack gas pumps at station::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Was this article written by AI, because it's disjointed as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I doubt AI would have that poor grammar and spelling.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago

So, how would this work exactly? For curiosity's sake.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

Can't have shit in Detroit... Not even coherent written articles.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Gas pumps have Bluetooth? That's news to me.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You would be surprised, and then very worried, to find out what things needlessly have bluetooth

I saw a guy detail how to hack a house through a fridge.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I get unreasonably angry at salespeople when they brag about Bluetooth and wifi on appliances.

I know I shouldn't. But wtf do you want your toaster to have internet access?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (5 children)

because idiots with more money than sense think its "neat" to pay an extra hundred dollars to be told their toaster is done toasting while they are in the other room, instead of listening for the loud ass KERSHINKLUNK

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I have to wonder if the are confusing NFC with Bluetooth? Many newer pumps have smart chip tap pads now. I suspect they have found an exploit for this now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Maybe they use Bluetooth for management and configuration.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The grammar in this article is horrendous. It’s almost as if Fox isn’t a reputable source for news!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Yeah for one he didn't steal anything, he liberated the refined Dino oil from its underground cage

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Is it really theft? Considering how much of his tax dollars have gone to subsidize the oil and gas industry?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, considering the oil company doesn't own the gas station and still gets paid for the fuel. The person you're stealing from is the owner of the gas station who purchases the fuel and then in many areas sells fuel with very low margin in hopes of you coming into the store for snacks and drinks to make money on higher margin products. So even if they are selling a large amount of fuel, they aren't making a lot of profit to make up for the theft.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I mean, that already is used to significantly lower at-the-pump gas prices from what they actually are, and raising gas prices is an easy way to lose an election in America, so that probably won't change. Notice that in many other countries gas prices are way higher than in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This article has so few details. How do we think they're pulling this off? Phones? A Flipper maybe? And then what?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

possession of flippers and 🐬 is illegal and punishable by up to 25 years to life /s adly

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bullshit. The world's a big place and your rules don't apply here

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

i was being sarcastic man i apologize for not clarifying but im pretty sure its true in a municipality

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Huh? Where?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (11 children)

4$ per gallon that's approximately 1$ per litre.

I hope it will at least double for you so you know what it's like to pay for petrol in Europe..

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (17 children)

I hope it will at least double to shock the system into prioritizing clean energy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ah yes, hurt the poor people to make the rich wake up. That'll definitely work!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

That would be quite a boost on top of how cheap solar is getting. Just need a good and cheap storage solution for the grid to run on more and more solar later and later into the evening.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure you realize just how much that would hurt people. Europe is much more densely concentrated and has far better public transit options. Many parts of the US are extremely rural. My nearest grocery store is a 30 minute drive away. There are no stores in walking distance at all. There are no sidewalks. There are no busses, trains, or cabs in my area, and that is not wildly uncommon.

If costs of gas doubled, at least without viable alternatives, it would absolutely bankrupt people. And it would disproportionately impact poor people in rural areas where it's very common to commute to work 30-60 minutes of driving is a common commute. While it varies by state, US federal minimum wage in the US is $7.25/hour. Many people commute for work, and an hour drive one way is also not uncommon.

Let's take 7.25 an hour x 40 hours = $290 before taxes.

We'll keep it simple and say a person uses only 1 gallon of gas per day to get to and from work which, at $8 a gallon x 5 days a week = $40. Just that travel to and from work and no other travel at all (or maintenance on the vehicle) would be 14% of pre-tax income.

So many things need to change so I understand the perspective, but I think it's really important to consider the widespread impact. Obviously the US has a lot of issues contributing to this situation.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In that case I hope your health care is reformed to imitate what we have here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

they do have some private healthcare dont they

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

I wouldn't wish that on anybody it sucks to pay a lot of money for gas

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Canada just north of the border it's about $1.92/L where I live.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait so they haven't caught them yet? The article gave no names. And why do these pumps have Bluetooth? You might as well put in a USB service port.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

At least you can lock a usb port behind an access panel

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

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