FireTower

"You look like a spy" Which is sadly why my career as a spy never got off the ground.

Trump may be a very poor candidate, but he didn't kill 13 million people.

I don't think people 20+ years from now will instantly jump to Trump when they hear Donald. Just like how if you meet George you don't think of Bush.

Humans are animals.

I think Cory Booker has potential. But a ham sandwich is the most electable candidate today. Just be somewhat alive and not problematic.

Not born in America. So he's a no go.

So you honest to God believe that the Boston Massacre isn't an important event in American history? Just as the the French-Indian War which had it not occurred the Revolution wouldn't have happenen?

My supporting evidence only has served as a platform for you to hang your own argument off of. If you needed to go to Wikipedia to learn about the French-Indian War just now you've no place to qualify American History as solely that of the English.

yet i easily did it

You did it wrongly as well. The protestants arriving was critical in establishing Massachusetts as an English stronghold. If the English never colonized MA there would be no Lexington & Concord.

Claiming that citing supporting evidence is cherry picking is ridiculous. You imply such without supporting you claim with a single point, as if there was a sea of evidence contrary.

What about the French Indian War? Is that American history under your fine line model? How about the Boston Massacre? None of the involved parties there would have even considered independence at the time.

There's multiple people on here with multiple opinions, and those opinions are subject to change as new information arises.

The history of the land is the history of America. My "cherry picking" is just pulling events that every American student gets taught in k-12 American History classes. This isn't American exceptionalism this is recognizing that "French History", "English History", and "Native American History" that happen on American soil are American history.

Trying to divide the history as being that of a government rather than a land is impossible to do as the histories of governments are interwoven.

History builds on itself. The French and Indian War (1754-63) might not be considered by you to be the history of the USA but it was George Washington that sparked off the conflict. And it would inform the relations with native nations down the line. It also created the terrible economic situation that lead the taxation of the colonies. But for that war we wouldn't have the America we have today.

And that war would have been much different if not informed by earlier conflicts like King Phillips War. There's no fine line to be drawn.

Only if you define American history as that of the current United States government which would exclude events most if not all would consider core events to American history. Like the Pilgrims landing, Lexington & Concord, and Bunker Hill. If you define it as the history of those who lived on the land you arrive at a different conclusion.

I think he was alluding to pre 1776 American history as well.