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I can actually vibe quite bigly and be very animated/engaged, but at the end of the day, I am an introvert, and a certain amount of mental recharge time is absolutely 100% required or my mind will stop working right.

What I mean by that is, if I am continuously exposed to the presence of "incompatible" human beings (the "compatible" ones seem to be a subset of people with ADHD / ASD / mood disorders), I will literally start showing symptoms similar to dementia, I will progressively lose my ability to speak and understand language, I will eventually start having (boring) hallucinations, etc. All of this is reversible if I am subsequently left the fuck alone, though the cognitive effects can persist for weeks or months after a bad episode.

In part because I do tech work which requires keeping a lot of information in mind at once, the above issue renders me unable to work during acute burnout, and unable to predict when or how much I'll be able to work during chronic (but not acute) burnout.

Because of this, I am (by some definitions) homeless, don't control my living environment, don't even fully control my diet for various reasons, etc. I'm actually writing this post as a tangent from looking up diabetes warning signs and discovering I have a number, all consistent with each other, all of which slowly got worse at the same rate over the last 5 years of chronic burnout. This is a result of not being able to control my diet or my exercise level (wayyy too fatigued from overstim most of the time).

But it's all, 100% of it, a carryover effect of not being able to get enough solitude that my mind can self-regulate sufficiently to be able to do paying work on a regular basis.

I lost my home a few years into the burnout and wound up bouncing thru a series of friends. Every single household had human factors that drove me into burnout. It's people who don't know how be still, who are always Doing Something even if they are sitting still - I can never stop perceiving them or being "on guard" in a house with them. It grinds me right down to the bone and then some. Anyway it was just dumb luck of the draw - some percentage of the population I can live with just fine. 3 years into this phase I ended up in an area that's very sprawly, did get a car for a while but not one I'd trust to take more than 10 or 15 miles, you should have seen this deathtrap, it was like a sitcom car, and anyway it died last year. So, I can't just walk to town and work at McDonald's or whatever. Camping options (uninhabited woods) exist but camping in them is illegal (which I've done on a couple desperate occasions).

I'm not entirely sure why I'm even posting this, other than to say I made a friend diagnosed with ASD a few years back who has a very similar symptom profile to me, but who is even more sensitive than me, and trapped like this with her own family. I know y'all are out there. You're valid. I know you're trying even if you've been so goddamn tired your eyeballs could melt for a month, 6 months, a year, 3 years.

I don't know about you, but I literally just need to be left the fuck alone and I will be fine, and able to pull myself out of the hole in 6-12 months. But that's the problem, this is America, nobody gets that kind of runway unless they're rich (or young and middle class with nice and/or indulgent family).

I don't need to be alone, but with 4 alcoholics having a rager in the rest of the house.

I don't need to be alone, but with occasional random people in and out of the house.

I don't need to be alone, but for only 24 total hours each week in irregular intervals.

I need to be able to access solitude / the company only of people who don't fixate my attention with their human presence, whenever I need, for as long as I need. Period.

Anyway, I'm legit thankful to live in a society where this is even fucking possible. I'm in North America and I know how to tickle computers. I've been on my ass for a literal decade, but if anybody can finagle a way back from it, it's me.

There are a lot of people who started off like I did - lower middle class with bright parents - and who ended up like I did, who beat themselves up relentlessly over it. I went to support groups and I saw how bad they hurt. Fortunately I don't have that problem, but I like to keep myself from developing it by doing shit like meditating, and watching videos of South Asian metalworking factories where dudes pour molten steel into molds while barefoot, and don't wait for the dust to settle in the lead oxide ball mill tumbler before opening the door and taking in a nice big lungful.

Eh, that's probably enough for now. I see you and love you, obligate introverts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I realized that I do the 'tell everyone' stage because I'm trying to recruit a body double so I'll stick with the project πŸ˜…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

try 25 virtual desktops running 2 browsers, one of which with multiple profiles for various broad topics ... my "main" session alone has 75-80 windows at present πŸ˜ƒ

edit: installed an extension to find out: in main session, 378 tabs across 84 windows. seems like a low number of tabs per window perhaps, but I organize topics into a window, then related topic-windows into a dedicated browser profile session if they're long-lived, and windows/sessions are grouped into virtual desktop by top-level topic more or less ... so my fediverse/threadiverse session has 35 tabs in 7 windows in only 1 virtual desktop.

edit 2: I theme each browser profile differently to (mostly) tell them apart by eye

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

This is because most therapists (in my loooooong experience) have absolutely zero understanding of executive dysfunction :|

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Not the guy you're responding to but I made a comment upthread that I found success by developing interlocking habits, or in some cases it's fair to say rituals rather than habits ... little sub-habits that guide you to the main one you want to develop, or briefly reward you when you've completed it. Items or processes in your environment which cue you and remind you that the habits you want to do even exist.

For example, 2 sub-components of what finally got me to remember to meditate (or skip, but intentionally πŸ˜’) were writing a brief journal entry of my observations after each sit with a piece of chocolate, and having a couple little succulents with a light on a timer by my altar, so that every time I'm in the room during the day the altar area, with a couple plants I need to keep an eye on for their health, is lit up to draw me in if I'm ready.

Doing things this way is very intentional and thus exhausting, and it requires a lot of trial and error to figure out the little sub-habits that all work together and that actually work for you (since some inevitably won't), and hell as somebody explaining it I've only had a couple big successes with it because I often don't have the energy/brainpower to figure all this out ... but man when I can pull it off, it works sooo well.

I'm a huge believer in "prosthetic environments" which I believe is a concept Dr. Russell Barkley came up with, he annoys me a little but as an ADHD research he's like 85% dead on target about this stuff, and thinks deeply about it.

Good luck!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've been trying to develop this habit for 7 years because I know how good it is for me :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm the same way. It's ironic given that I posted this meme, but when I can use them lists really help.

In my case, if I travel somewhere for 3 days, when I get back, many of the routines I had at my original location will have evaporated no matter how long I had them, so I made a list, and have been trying to build a routine-recovering routine. It's slow going for other reasons but I've been very slowly working on it for 5 years now and it has helped at times when I've needed it (and remembered it exists).

Here's my additional tip to OP's tip: if you are someone who holds habits like a sieve holds water, you have to be even more intentional about forming habits, and form multiple interlocking habits that cue you. I'm at a very stressful time in life right now so it's hard for me to remember details but like, I wanted to develop a daily meditation habit. But what I had to do in order for it to actually stick, was develop a ritual out of interlocking habits: getting my tea, lighting some incense, doing the actual meditation, once finished immediately having a rewarding sip of tea, dusting off my cushion, writing a brief journal entry afterwards (this is the one that tipped it over the edge for me for some reason) with a piece of dark chocolate. I also put little succulents by my altar with a lamp on a timer that comes on in the morning, so just the lit-up presence of plants which I need to tend every few days draws me toward the altar if I've forgotten or postponed my sit.

You have to be like this with everything that doesn't come naturally. Yes, it's extremely intentional, which is exhausting. Yes it's a lot of hit or miss, trial and error, because of all the little sub-habits I just described above, there will be a number you try which end up not working for you. So you have to be persistent at messing around with your habit-sculpture long enough to find a permutation which works for you, and being persistent at things like this can be very difficult for people like us. In that case, I recommend sheer desperation, it helps with the persistence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bullet journaling is fscking amazing for this, unfortunately after many years of hard experience, I've come to understand that I'm so receptive to environmental stimuli that I just haven't been able to maintain such a system in a chaotic environment ... I need a certain level of baseline peace / recharge in order to be able to stay on top of systems like these. But they do work so well when I can manage it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

In my case, I decided to cut Big Tech out of my life which led to dropping Google Calendar in favor of an open source solution, which works exactly the same except for GCal's one teensy little proprietary extension: reminders.

Living without that snoozable reminder stack for the past 4 years has been like walking around with a hole in my side.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

it looks blurry because we're just that exhausted

 
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

alone and in silence being the key part of this, after having input shoved thru my brain by other 🦍s for the last seven years whether I had any desire for it or not

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The reason bullet journaling can work so well for ADHD/ExecDys types who take to it, is because bullet journaling is a structure of interlocking habits with an element of ritual to it, while "remember to look at the important list crumpled in my back pocket" is not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

The really fucked up situation is when you're stuck in this mode to the point of severe burnout because of your environment which you cannot escape in any reasonable amount of time.

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