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Examples of racism on Lemmy? in c/[email protected]
Examples of racism on Lemmy? in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good point, thanks. It's great that mods are blocking sources of racism, although also means that people who don't see can wind up thinking that there isn’t any racism.

Examples of racism on Lemmy? in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

Thanks! Yeah, one of the dynamics is that when people quickly report and mods take the posts down quickly, most people don't see them ... which is good, but also means that it's easy to believe that there isn't any racism.

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Examples of racism on Lemmy? (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
 

In 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like "maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don't see it on Lemmy." Then again, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don't see racism even when they're looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. ... but that wasn't really the thrust of that discussion.

So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you've seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!

Examples of racism on Lemmy? in c/[email protected]
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Examples of racism on Lemmy? (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
 

In 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like "maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don't see it on Lemmy." Of course, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don't see racism even when they're looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. ... but that wasn't really the thrust of that discussion.

So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you've seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!

4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks much for the detailed response! And thanks @[email protected] for the detailed response as well.

4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

That's a great point, can I quote you on having seen it on Lemmy quite a few times?

4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks very much for the feedback, I really appreciate the time you put into it and. you bring up a lot of very good points. For "start making" vs "making" and "less toxic" vs "more welcoming", I'm intentionally choosing the weaker forms to emphasize that these are only the very first steps. I know it's a harder sell this way but it's important to set expectations. It's a good point about how some allies saying :"listen to me!" take space from marginalized groups, I kind of feel like I've got that covered by betweent the combination of #1 and #2 but maybe it's worth making more explicit.

Agreed that the discussion of repeated questions could be more explicit. (It's not necessarily sealioning, although sometimes it is; often it's the same one or two reasonable questions from a huge number of people.). But that's not actually the key point I'm trying to make. Instead, to relates to this:

the way that this point is currently worded, it sounds fallacious (inversion of the burden of the proof)

Many people react that way but think about it a little more. It's a fact. Mutliuple Black people have proven it repeatedly. There is no further burden of proof, it's only whiteness' denial that makes it seem like an open question and entitlement that makes it seem like Black people should produce more evidence. The annoyance factor is a big deal too, but it's secondary.

And, good catch on the typo, thanks!

4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The community is called "Fediverse", and this is about the fediverse, so yes it is the correct audience.

And there's plenty of anti-Blackness on Lemmy. In fact there's even a bunch of anti-Blackness in this thread -- as somebody on another instance said, it's illustrates why other instances have defederated lemmy.world! So, if you're looking for examples, have a look at this thread.

4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Thanks very much for wading in, @[email protected] - and thanks again to all the mods for taking action here. Any thread about racism in the fediverse becomes evidence of racism in the fediverse, sigh.

More positively, though, I got some very helpful feedback here from @[email protected], @[email protected] and @[email protected] ... which is appreciated, and testimony to the fact that clearly a lot of people on Beehaw do get it!

4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Thanks very much for wading in!

4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Good feedback, thanks much. I did check with Black people about directing folks to #BlackMastodon and the @ blackfedi group -- but I should probably be more explicit about not posting their, and your general point about not barging into spaces where you're not invited is importat and something I should highlight. I'll add something to the "and tht's not all" section about working on your biases and behaviors more generally. And also good point about stressing the intersectional aspects more. Greatly appreciated!

4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks much, I very much appreciate the supportive words! And, great analysis, thanks for that as well. Although, if you think things are bad here you should see the lemmy.world thread, where it's down to -47. And just imagine how much worse it would be if I were Black!

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4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) (privacy.thenexus.today)
 

Feedback welcome! Here's the TL;DR list

  1. Listen more to more Black people
  2. Post less – and think before you post
  3. Call in, call out, and/or report anti-Blackness when you see it
  4. Support Black people and Black-led instances and projects

Other suggestions?

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4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) (privacy.thenexus.today)
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15011909

Feedback welcome! Here's the TL;DR list

  1. Listen more to more Black people
  2. Post less – and think before you post
  3. Call in, call out, and/or report anti-Blackness when you see it
  4. Support Black people and Black-led instances and projects

Other suggestions?

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Eight tips about consent for fediverse developers (privacy.thenexus.today)
 

If you're a developer working on a fediverse app or service and want to get it right – or just don't want to be the center of the next firestorm – here are a few suggestions.

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Federal privacy legislation update: the American Privacy Rights Act (APRA) (privacy.thenexus.today)
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/10889989

Big news in DC: a new bipartisan, bicameral proposal for a "compromise" federal privacy bill, the American Privacy Rights Act (APRA). At this point, take it all with a grain of salt; in 2022, the initial draft of the bill was promising, but it got weakened substantially by the subcommittee and then weakened further by the committee. I haven't read the discussion draft yet so don't have any strong opinions on it.

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It's possible to talk about The Bad Space without being racist or anti-trans – but it's not as easy as it sounds (privacy.thenexus.today)
 

There's another wave of discourse about The Bad Space on the microblogging side of the fediverse, so here's my article from a couple of months ago.

If you're familiar with Fediseer, there's some discussion of similarities and differences in Compare and contrast: Fediseer, FIRES, and The Bad Space

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Here Are the Secret Locations of ShotSpotter Gunfire Sensors (www.wired.com)
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Cyberbullying Gone Global: Fediverse Spam and Operation Beleaguer (blog.fyralabs.com)
 

A really interesting look at the recent spam wave.

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Steps towards a safer fediverse (privacy.thenexus.today)
 

The good news is that there are some straightforward opportunities for significant short-term safety improvements. If fediverse funders, developers, businesses, and "influencers" start prioritizing investing in safety, the fediverse can turn what's currently a big weakness into a huge strategic advantage.

Contents:

  • It's about people, not just the software and the protocol

  • It's also about the software

  • And it's about the protocol, too

  • Threat modeling and privacy by design can play a big role here

  • Design from the margins – and fund it!

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Don’t Fall for the Latest Changes to the Dangerous Kids Online Safety Act (US Politics) (www.eff.org)
 

KOSA's supporters are claiming that the latest version addresses concerns from the LGBTQ community, and a few LGBTQ organizations (including GLAAD and HRC) have endorsed this version, but don't be fooled: the dozens of LGBTQ and human rights organizations who have been opposing KOSA were not consulted about these changes and so while there are improvements, it's still far from sufficient. This article's EFF's take on the amended version. TL;DR summary:

  • LGBTQ+ Youth will be at risk of having content, educational material, and their own online identities erased.
  • Young people searching for sexual health and reproductive rights information will find their search results stymied.

We are asking everyone reading this to oppose this latest version, and to demand that their representatives oppose it—even if you have already done so.

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Steps towards a safer fediverse (DRAFT) (privacy.thenexus.today)
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/7992691

There are some straightforward opportunities for short-term safety improvements, but this is only the start of what's needed to change the dynamic more completely.

This is a draft, so feedback welcome!

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