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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I haven't used Google for awhile now. It just became an ad-ridden hellhole.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do people not have ad blockers anymore?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

That's not what we're talking about. Ad blockers don't do anything to fix Google's search algorithm

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I understand the post OP but I'm replying to a comment. Specifically this part...

It just became an ad-ridden hellhole.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I take it what OP meant is that a lot of the top results are ads - even if they aren't shown as such. Like how half the crap uploaded by large youtubers these days is pretty much an ad for a specific product, although there's no way to tell until you click onto it (unless you use sponsorblock)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The ads you see injected in your search result as "sponsored" are not the only way Googles Ad interests affect your search results. They are actively manipulating your search queries to make them point more towards their paying customers wanted result without you noticing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. That's why i use an ad blocker

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

that's not something your adblocker can suppress

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

how would your adblocker affect something going on in googles backend?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It affects what is displayed to me in the browser window. No backend needed. It sees "sponsored" and hides them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And if you read my comment again, that's not what I was talking about

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. But i will say that with the adblocker i can find what i need a lot easier and is usually a top 3 result if not the first.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Definitely. Not having half of the first page being ads helps a lot

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That's why I like Kagi. I do almost anything to avoid ads

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Not really no.
Kagi has vastly more features. Most are extremely useful. Including privacy.
And the whole "funding a bigot" complaint strikes me as kind of silly. The "partnership" is just them using the Brave search API, no different than they do Google, Bing, and a few others. I even have Brave as one of my sanity check browsers when something doesn't work on Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Privacy doesn't exist without the ability to compile and self host.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's silly to try to avoid doing anything that may, in some way support a bigot. They are literally everywhere. Even Gandhi was racist.

It's just the payment info, not the searches. And since their users are their only revenue source, because they aren't selling ads, they have no reason to save searches.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You might think that under capitalism or something, animal cruelty might be a huge problem too, but I doubt you would buy bullets with the express intent of shooting dogs. (I hope.)

This seems like a non-sequitur. I don't understand your point here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Here's the section for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

= In 2017, Beale launched Infogalactic, an English-language wiki encyclopedia. The site was a fork of the contents of English Wikipedia which could be gradually edited to remove the influence of what Beale described as "the left-wing thought police who administer [Wikipedia]". It has been described by Wired and The Washington Post as a version of Wikipedia targeted to alt-right readers.

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