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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (5 children)

What's a "pavement princess"?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago (2 children)

An "off-road" vehicle that's never been off-road

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I heard it from my truck friends, and this is what I understand too. A truck driver who "has" to own a truck for some flimsy reason, but end up driving it to their office every day. The truck never (or rarely) goes off road, tows anything, or is used for actual truck things.

In essence, you don't need a truck, you could easily rent one from the home depot for $20 twice a year and be perfectly fine

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

In essence, you don't need a truck, you could easily rent one from the home depot for $20 twice a year and be perfectly fine

But how am i supposed to feel like a big man without the ability endanger the lives of everyone around me???

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Oh no! Does this mean I'll need to develop an actual personality with my own likes and dislikes without following what I think will make me look manly?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry, there are many other ways to make others feel unsafe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Like a red hat!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Drive a lifted civic with the brightest lights you can get pointed directly at the mirror of anyone in front of you who drives a reasonable vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

What does one need a truck for anyway? They seen highly unpractical as working vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I know actual farmers and seems like they use a trailer more than a truck. Which makes sense, because they can just remove it when unneeded

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

So as a farmer here in Canada, it depends where you live and what you farm. We use a lot of trailers, but they are all pulled by truck. The most common hookup methods for large trailers are gooseneck or 5th wheel, both of which require a truck as the connection point is right above the rear axle to improve towing capacity and handling.

My farm's heavy truck is a 1-ton flatbed with tilt deck and gooseneck hitch as well as a pintle hitch. This truck allows me to pull livestock trailers, hay wagons and farm equipment, and haul pallets, tanks and bagged goods, a very versatile truck.

It also drinks fuel like you wouldn't believe, so if I'm not hauling I drive an efficient diesel car when I go to the city (~200km)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I usually see farmers use a 4WD with a trailer, or just their tractors. Trucks aren’t really a thing here, just the occasional douchebag who has imported one from the US.

For uses like construction and other blue collar work people use vans. Lots of storage space, and it’s enclosed so protected against the elements and from theft.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

They're very common in my country. Most taxis are Toyota pickup trucks. They are great on dirt roads and you can fit a lot of people, animals, and groceries in the back.

It's also great for bicycles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I live in America and the people (princesses) here drive pickups for very different reasons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I live in America too. Its two big continents with many countries

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As someone from the USA, specifically in Texas, it's hilarious to watch people lose their minds when you tell them Mexicans or Brazilians are Americans as well.

It's like some people don't understand geography.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Hey, we have a government program in the US that pays people to learn geography. All you have to do is hold guns on world heritage sites (a friend of mine once had to secure ziggurats)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

What country? Here in the US cyclists rarely drive pickups, we’re more likely to drive a subcompact hatchback or SUV and either throw it in the back or get a rack

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They’re great for hauling medium amounts of heavy shit and for hitching. So if you’re building a whole house it may not be perfect, but you probably can put your tools in the bed and use a trailer for lumber. But if you’re a carpenter or a mason you can throw a fair amount of wood or stone or brick in the bed and it wont have an issue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

but you probably can put your tools in the bed

But that’s still impractical, you can only put your tools in there temporarily, but you can’t leave them unattended in an open truck bed or they would get stolen. Over here carpenters, masons, electricians and people in similar occupations usually use vans. Often they have shelves and other storage solutions in their van for their tools. Here are some examples (text is in Dutch but the photos are self explanatory).

You can still use a trailer with a van, and they often have roof-racks for things like long pieces of lumber, a ladder, etc. In comparison a truck just seems way less practical than a van.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I know farmers use open bed trucks for stuff like dirt and manure. The bed is a plus there as you can use a tarp to keep it in in transport then wash it out after. So yeah we wind up with farmers having trucks, some trades like masons use either, and tradesfolks like plumbers and electricians where they have a lot of tools and equipment that needs to be kept organized go with vans. It’s just that we have a metric fuck ton of arable land and as such a lot of farmers (though often it’s a capital intensive hobby) anywhere remotely rural. This results in pickup trucks being the iconic vehicle of the rural American and part of their identity even if they’re an accountant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

modern trucks for sure, they're - at least in the US from personal experience - frequently FAR oversized for their actual use needs.

I had an s-10 second hand in the 90s and it was crazy gas efficient and handy as a hammer. not a highway cruiser or a gigantic hauler, but it handled lumber and sod and shingles just fine. for some reason, they literally don't make a truck that size anymore. same with the Kei truck form factor - it's just gone, the only I see here in the US are old, pre-2010 stock.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

This is what I do. I need a truck maybe once every year.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I've also heard "mall terrain vehicle"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Typically lifted trucks that are supposed to "look cool" like they're capable of offroading, but would get stuck the moment they actually went off road.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Ohh, so "pavement" meaning a sealed road surface?

In my head I'm trying to figure out what the footpath (U.S. "sidewalk") a.k.a. U.K. pavement fits in with the jibe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, U.S. pavement. A U.K. pavement princess would be a Mustang. They sure don't like to stay on the road when trying to burn out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yep, at least in Canada "pavement" is either a sealed asphalt road surface, or the walking path in a garden or public park. Never the footpath on the side of a road, that's a sidewalk or footpath.

A more common term for them here is "brodozer". A portmanteau of "bro" and "bulldozer".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Why would they get stuck if they're lifted so they dont get stuck?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

A Chelsea tractor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I've never heard the term before, but my first guess would be someone who has a castle on wheels. So an SUV owner, or pickup owner who doesn't actually use it for its intended purpose.